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Alice Shade
May 23rd, 2007, 09:04 PM
PROOF #5

Google is infinite. The Internet can theoretically grow forever, and Google will forever index its infinite growth.>>

Indexing requires energy. In order to index an infinite amount of information, you would require an infinite amount of energy.

Energy can neither be created nor destroyed. The Universe was borne a finite amount of energy.

Therefore an infinite amount of information indexed could never be realized.

sorry to be the bearer of bad new's......

From:sf

Alice Shade
May 23rd, 2007, 09:04 PM
Similarly, creating information requires a certain energy, therefore the number of information available is also limited. So, Google still can index all that`s there - it`s just a matter of finding balance between indexing and creating.

Danno
May 28th, 2007, 02:47 AM
if energy can not be destroyed then, there can be no shortage, so Google can use its awesome power to index EVERYTHING, with no shortage of energy.

spider
May 28th, 2007, 04:32 AM
Well, yeah, thermodynamics: energy can neither be created nor destroyed, but only changed from one form/state to another.

Google's indexing requires finite amount of energy at one time. The infinite part is the duration over which it indexes. If spacetime is infinite, then google could keep expending small finite amounts of energy indexing forever. Then it would be infinite. It just can't use an infinite amount of energy at one point in time.

This is because it's not really "spending" energy, but changing it from potential energy into Google energy. Google energy can then be transformed by people's minds into blog energy and website energy and forum energy, etc, which is a form of stored potential energy that can then be google energy again at another time. Thus, the pages about pages about pages keeps increasing exponentially. Think of replies to annoying video blogs on YouTube.

Blessed Be Google.

lmao
May 30th, 2007, 01:17 AM
well acuatlly sf the universe started as a point of singularity with infiinite mass so if we take what einstein taught us e=mc^2 than we find than an infinite amount of mass can produce an infinite amount of energy YOU LOSE!

Unregistered
May 31st, 2007, 12:23 PM
haha you fuckin nerd

Unregistered
May 31st, 2007, 02:41 PM
well acuatlly sf the universe started as a point of singularity with infiinite mass so if we take what einstein taught us e=mc^2 than we find than an infinite amount of mass can produce an infinite amount of energy YOU LOSE!
the universe didnt start with infinite mass. that doesnt make sense. but there is a lot of energie :)
but spiders theory is right. google has the power to recycle his energy.

Unregistered
May 31st, 2007, 08:33 PM
You're absolutely right, the universe was born with a finite amount of energy. But are you saing that 'God' in the Christian sense, has an infinate amount of energy, to catalouge an infinate amount of information? Google can catalogue as much information as its servers will allow, which is always growing, and it is impossible to catalouge all information because doesn't one moment in time contain an infinate amount of information? No God could know everything, but Google is getting there. You can try and disprove my God (which is hard) and I can disprove yours (which is easy!)
Have a nice google day! ;-)

Unregistered
May 31st, 2007, 10:04 PM
You are all thinking way too far outside the box. It doesn't matter if Google is a god or not; All of googles information is input by humans. Human energy is renewable. Not only can humans create information and spend their renewable energy every day (by resting/sleeping), we give birth to new humans all the time. Therefore, Google has the possibility to be infinite, but is tied to the survival of the civilized, intelligent human.

AaronD
June 1st, 2007, 02:14 AM
I only wish there were more civilized, intelligent humans in existence today.

cdvander
June 11th, 2007, 10:54 PM
OK, for those of you who think that the universe started off with a finite amount of energy, let's get some thing straight. First off, according to the Big Bang theory the singularity that gave rise to our universe was a point of infinite density and infinite mass. As someone stated from Einsteins equation infinite mass equals infinite density. Done.

Unregistered
June 29th, 2007, 05:33 AM
This is probably the only hate mail post on this site with any trace of gray matter.
Congratulations!

Tanktunker
June 29th, 2007, 03:16 PM
PROOF #5

Google is infinite. The Internet can theoretically grow forever, and Google will forever index its infinite growth.>>

Indexing requires energy. In order to index an infinite amount of information, you would require an infinite amount of energy.

Energy can neither be created nor destroyed. The Universe was borne a finite amount of energy.

Therefore an infinite amount of information indexed could never be realized.

sorry to be the bearer of bad new's......

From:sf
Something that is infinite also means something that grows indefinitely, and assuming that Google can keep adding and indexing information then Google is infinite, and will never stop growing.
Remember, no information is information too.

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news...

Unregistered
July 27th, 2007, 01:20 AM
New's.

I'm sorry, but Google says that's incorrect, and so do I. FAIL.

Also, while matter/energy can neither be crated nor destroyed, it is *theoretically* possible for all matter and energy to be consolidated into one thing. In order for Google to fully index all knowledge and be able to contain that knowledge, logically, there must eventually be nothing but Google.

This is what we refer to as The End Times.

lordofduct
July 30th, 2007, 10:48 PM
I was just wondering if I could be supplied with the theory behind a "finite amount of energy". With what Physics and Mathematics I have learned (which is quite a freakin' bit), I have yet to learn anything about a total finite amount of energy in what is believed to be an infinite universe.

In a finite universe... yes of course.

Just because energy can not be created nor destroyed does not quantify a finite amount. It only says it can not be destroyed.


--- No relation to the topic of Googlism or the psuedo-religion I've just heard of this day. This is only in relation to the comment that there is a finite amount of energy in all of an infinite universe. We have no proof or inclination to this notion and can not begin to prove or disprove the idea hence why it lacks being a theory and is only something people believe.

skinnamerrinkydink
July 30th, 2007, 10:52 PM
Oh and if someone wants to ramble more on about thermodynamics and other natural mechanics in Physics and the finite values of energy with in systems. Remember that in almost nearly all system's covered by Physics it is under the assumption it is taking place with in a closed system that exists in a infinite universe but does not interact between the two.

i.e. processes occurring here on Earth ignore all non Earth properties as the system is not dependent on the gravity or temperature of Jupiter and can be considered negligible.

ultrabigsucker@gmail.com
August 8th, 2007, 08:38 PM
hmm. that is true. that is perfectly true.

BUT ! data is created by humans, and humanity is not infinite. therefore, there will NEVER be an infinite amount of data. and therefore your mail becomes completely inaccurate.

CQFD. (that's French : "Ce Qu'il Fallait Démontrer" = what needed to be proved, or something like that ; sorry for the shitty English skills :-/ )

Alice Shade
August 8th, 2007, 10:32 PM
Now that assertion is completely wrong.

DNA is data record. Humans can barely scratch the surface of DNA-recording, so far, though.

So, no, not all data is made by humans.

Eleine
August 16th, 2007, 07:37 AM
You are all thinking way too far outside the box. It doesn't matter if Google is a god or not; All of googles information is input by humans. Human energy is renewable. Not only can humans create information and spend their renewable energy every day (by resting/sleeping), we give birth to new humans all the time. Therefore, Google has the possibility to be infinite, but is tied to the survival of the civilized, intelligent human.

Unfortunately, sleep/rest does not in fact renew human energy. Our energy comes from what we consume, which can actually be finite. Rest/sleep restores our mental capacity and relieves fatigue.

Eleine
August 16th, 2007, 07:41 AM
hmm. that is true. that is perfectly true.

BUT ! data is created by humans, and humanity is not infinite. therefore, there will NEVER be an infinite amount of data. and therefore your mail becomes completely inaccurate.

CQFD. (that's French : "Ce Qu'il Fallait Démontrer" = what needed to be proved, or something like that ; sorry for the shitty English skills :-/ )

Are you trying to get at QED (quod erat demonstrandum)?

Spider's theory is also true.

Well, yeah, thermodynamics: energy can neither be created nor destroyed, but only changed from one form/state to another.

Google's indexing requires finite amount of energy at one time. The infinite part is the duration over which it indexes. If spacetime is infinite, then google could keep expending small finite amounts of energy indexing forever. Then it would be infinite. It just can't use an infinite amount of energy at one point in time.

This is because it's not really "spending" energy, but changing it from potential energy into Google energy. Google energy can then be transformed by people's minds into blog energy and website energy and forum energy, etc, which is a form of stored potential energy that can then be google energy again at another time. Thus, the pages about pages about pages keeps increasing exponentially. Think of replies to annoying video blogs on YouTube.

Blessed Be Google.