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Evangooglist
March 16th, 2008, 04:34 AM
I know I'm not the only one who thinks the book sold on http://www.exgirlfriendguru.com is a scam. That's not the point of this post. I'm wondering how many of you think that it's okay for this church to aid in the sales of this book?

The first two words of your post should be either I AGREE or I DISAGREE. The question being

"Do you think it's okay for this Church to be used to promote the sale of a book on relationships?"

There's no need for word games, if you are unsure of any meaning of this question, simply choose your favorite interpretation and put your dictionary back in Wallsy's pocket.

The comparison of this book to the Church of Google and Dianetics to Scientology should be self-evident.

For more information, follow this thread http://www.thechurchofgoogle.org/forum/showthread.php?t=2855

Excerpts of the book in question:

"Discover Dirty Psychological Tricks To Quickly & Easily Win A Girlfriend Back After A Breakup... 83.6% Success Rate!"
"How to easily get your ex girlfriend to pathetically crawl back to you and not the other way around."
"How to have the best makeup sex ever. The #1 most effective technique to use in bed is finally revealed. After becoming a GOD in bed, she'll be the one begging YOU for sex!"

http://www.exgirlfriendguru.com/images/train_your_girlfriend_ebook.gif

rzm61
March 16th, 2008, 07:25 AM
Edit: I DISAGREE with this whole entire thread and your little problem with the links/Matt's book...

Oh Evan, would you lay off it.
The church is not aiding in the sales of that book.

Hardly anyone clicks those links. Shit, I am sure over half the members didn't even notice them till Sciky pointed it out to everyone. So man, seriously just relax. This is starting to get out of hand and to be honest, starting to piss me off.

Vexx
March 16th, 2008, 03:21 PM
I disagree, i suppose.
Listen! Well, not really listen as much as read!
http://www.exgirlfriendguru.com has nothing to do with CoG. Sure, there's little links at the bottom of the page, but you know what? Those links are looked at just as much as those "Related links from Google:" that you see on almost every page you go to. They're probably almost completely ignored unless you were actually looking for them.
Here's another idea: It's Matt's site. He could advertize porn if he damn well wanted to. You're not paying for anything, are you? So I wouldn't complain! Leave Matt alone already! Sure, I might disagree with what's on that site, but I do know what it's Matt's. if he's making money off of it, good for him. At least he's not making us pay some membership fee on here.

Loki
March 16th, 2008, 03:52 PM
Evan:
He's not actively selling his other sites! Honestly I didn't know about the others until someone pointed them out!
Sure - I'm not that observant but who is?

All you've done with this post is advertise them!

rzm61
March 16th, 2008, 04:21 PM
All you've done with this post is advertise them!

Ahem:
Spam anyone?
http://www.dailyllama.com/news/2004/images/golden_honey_spam.jpg

At least you are advertising Matt's other sites and books though. ;)

Dr Goofy Mofo
March 16th, 2008, 09:01 PM
I think Evan didn't grow up and he is in fact a Toys R Us kid.

Lord_Jereth
March 16th, 2008, 10:45 PM
Warning: what follows is my own opinion shaped by many events that have happened over the last few months that I have observed and/or been privy to. I am not speaking for the Ministry or the CoG. The views and opinions that are herein expressed are my own and may not reflect those of my fellow Ministers or Matt, himself.

I have been an off-again-on-again web designer and web master for years and I have owned, created, paid for and maintained several sites and forums similar to these. I am not speaking for Matt but I do feel the need to come to his defense as a colleague in the genre. I am most likely going to step on a few toes and make a few folks mad - so be it - but I think too many folks have forgotten it and the point bears making.

If the shoe fits, wear it. If not, it's still worth remembering.



Ok folks, here's the bottom line on this debate: there is no debate. Period.

Let's get one thing straight and perfectly clear here and now: thechurchofgoogle.org is a privately owned website and attached forum. It is not public property. Matt owns it and pays for it - it's his brain-child and creation. Everyone, from Admins and Ministers to the newest members are nothing more than guests here.

That part bears repeating: You are a guest, here.

Some folks, actually too many in my estimation, seem to conveniently forget that part and choose instead to abuse his good nature far too often. I, personally, can't stand that. Matt has been kind enough to share his "house" with us and give us a little glimpse of his humor and thoughts. To question his motives is not just patently hypocritical but downright rude. At the risk of stretching a metaphor until it squeals, you sit at his table, dine from his food, sleep end entertain yourselves in the rooms he provides for you and then question how he runs it? Who the hell do you think you are? Don't be so disingenuous as to enjoy the fruits of his labors as well as the generosity of his property and then have the cajones to believe that you have the right to criticize how he tends to it or how he pays for it. Let me clue you in on a little secret: you don't. In any way.

The usage of this site is a privilege, not a right. Although I know it's not Matt's way, that privilege can be rescinded at a whim and at any time - without your permission, a certified warning or, in most cases, without remorse. Never, ever lose sight of that as you're enjoying your stay here. It's the golden rule, boys and girls; he who has (or, in this case, pays) the gold makes the rules. He PAYS for this with real money and it's not exactly cheap. He can let it thrive or kill it with impunity. Ultimately he's the master of the manor and he can do as he pleases with it. It's time that you burn that point into your brains - and I can't express this next point strongly enough - start acting accordingly.

From this site and it's accompanying forum specifically, Matt receives nothing in return outside of a little notoriety and a lot of headaches. This is a labor of love, folks, nothing more. What he does with his other sites, or how he promotes them, is none of your concern. He has the right to do, and will do, exactly as he pleases. Deal with it or be gone.

Evangooglist, when you start paying the bills then maybe, just maybe, you can start having a say about how it's managed and what's included as content, links, etc. Until then, and I say this with all due respect, kindly shut the hell up. Or, if you do feel the need to speak about Matt's personal affairs, how about starting with a simple "thank you" to the man who has made all this possible and then simply and humbly being on your way. You might come off as a little less of a hypocrite.



:icon_cool: LJ

Dr Goofy Mofo
March 16th, 2008, 10:49 PM
Amen or [/html] or what ever you feel like to that.

Fallen Hero
March 17th, 2008, 03:13 PM
To me it looks like another joke site. Scroll through it, you'll not find a single acutal price.

Vexx
March 17th, 2008, 03:17 PM
To me it looks like another joke site. Scroll through it, you'll not find a single acutal price.

http://www.exgirlfriendguru.com/images/download-button.gif

Would that count?

Fallen Hero
March 17th, 2008, 03:28 PM
Dunno, but I could not find a price so it seemed to be a parody of infomercials.

Loki
March 17th, 2008, 03:31 PM
Evan - a bit ago Matt and I had a conversation. I hope I'm not breaking any privalages here by saying we spoke about it.

I suggested that we could earn a bit of money from adverts and links to Amazon.
Matt said no! The CoG was to remain free!

Got to respect that!

(sorry Matt - I'll bite your arse if I think it's needed but I'll defend you as well - D)

rzm61
March 17th, 2008, 03:34 PM
..but I'll defend you as well...

You know, I've never felt a more cultish vibe from the CoG until I started defending someone who I don't even know. :D

ha ha.
I am not saying the CoG is a cult. I am just saying in hindsight, I feel like a cult member for defending someone who I don't even know...

Still though I will defend Matt (even though he doesn't need me to). I have no problem with it, especially when he is being wrongly accused.

Dr Goofy Mofo
March 17th, 2008, 03:57 PM
We are family not a cult RZM like most religions. We shall rasie arms together and defend Matt.

rzm61
March 17th, 2008, 03:59 PM
Goofy, I never said the CoG is a cult.

It was all a feeling.
It made me laugh if anything.

Also whats with the capatilzation of my handle Goofy?

Dr Goofy Mofo
March 17th, 2008, 04:25 PM
IDK I felt like saying it. A lot of times I speak without thinking it just happens. If you really want I will cool the Kool-aid and get your space suit ready for you. :D

I captialized it to ....*trys to think of reasons* show that you are a capitalist and not a comunist... yea thats it.

Tsar Phalanxia
March 17th, 2008, 05:22 PM
What about Socialists? Would I get PHALanxia?

Tsun
March 24th, 2008, 12:34 PM
I DON'T CARE, BUT I WANT THAT BOOK.

I could care less who supports selling what. I <3 capitalism. But I think I might actually get that book, hahaha. This is the first I'm hearing about it though. And I doubt you can really learn things like that from a book. Experience is really the only teacher for those kinda things. But I will probably peruse an online copy if Google finds me one.

Edit: What the hell, is this thread even about the book, or the internal politics of T.C.O.G.?

rzm61
March 24th, 2008, 02:25 PM
Edit: What the hell, is this thread even about the book, or the internal politics of T.C.O.G.?

This thread is more about seeing if everyone is cool with Matt putting links on his site to another one of his sites that is selling his book. Which there is nothing wrong with that....Evan is the only one who really seems to have a problem with this. :icon_rolleyes:

Loki
March 24th, 2008, 03:00 PM
Edit: What the hell, is this thread even about the book, or the internal politics of T.C.O.G.?

To bring a bit of perspective into this...

There once was a woman, a strange kinda woman. The kind that gets written down in history!

That's where it goes flat because her name wasn't Nancy:(

Anyhoo - she used to berate Matt all the time for trying to make money from this site. She never believed him when he said he didn't! That's Communists for ya!

Back on topic (ish)

LJ hit it on the head - it's Matt's site. I'd not have a problem with him making a bit of cash through subtle adverts or the odd linky to other, cash generating, sites.

I know I have a rant at times about The Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster (CoFSM) but that's personal. Bobby and I seem to be on different wavelengths. Bobby seems to believe his own hype.
At least Matt doesn't want to buy a Pirate Ship funded by his posters! Or ask for donations!
I'm starting to rant again aren't I?:icon_rolleyes:

Tsun
March 24th, 2008, 03:10 PM
Hahah, seems I'm much too much of a noob to be in this thread, but since I'm already here, I guess I'll throw down my two cents. If its Matt's site, he can do whatever the hell he wants with it. He's putting his money in somewhere, whether its the URL, sever, or whatever. Of course he has the right to try and get a little return on it. Lol, I can't believe someone would actually complain about the owner of the site doing what he wants with his site.

Loki
March 24th, 2008, 07:32 PM
Hahah, seems I'm much too much of a noob to be in this thread...

Hell no! You have an opinion then you voice it! Not many folks here give two hoots for post counts - well, apart from rzm61 but he's just a post-count whore:D If he bothers you just spread some "drugs are bad!" phrases around and he'll be off like a rat up a drain-pipe LOL (J/K mate ;))

Anyway - welcome to the site Tsun - I don't think I said hello when you first joined (I could have done but I was a bit off planet yesterday lol)

rzm61
March 24th, 2008, 07:39 PM
well, apart from rzm61 but he's just a post-count whore:D If he bothers you just spread some "drugs are bad!" phrases around and he'll be off like a rat up a drain-pipe LOL (J/K mate ;))

Well aren't you just too cute!
I love it Loki. You are the only one who seems to care about my post count. Seeing how you mention it every chance you get. ;)

Anyway - welcome to the site Tsun - I don't think I said hello when you first joined (I could have done but I was a bit off planet yesterday lol)


Hmmmm.....You said it best. ;)

"drugs are bad!"

Loki
March 24th, 2008, 09:28 PM
LOL - I knew it :D
Mate - you are so frigging predictable :D Low Key LOL - I'm amazed nobody has done that one before. Perhaps it was so obvious that the bright ones ignored it?
Very childrens hour!

If I'm the only one that cares about your post count how come I'm not the only to have mentioned it? LOL

rzm61
March 24th, 2008, 09:30 PM
Yes yes Low-Key, I can be/am quite predictable. :(
I need to start working on my spontaneity...

Anyway, I know others have mentioned it, however you seem to be the only one who tries to take a stab at it every chance you get. ;)

Edit:
Also I've been thinking of a way to mess with your handle for awhile. Sure enough Low-Key was the one that came to mind....it works, for now. :D

Tsun
March 24th, 2008, 09:46 PM
Hell no! You have an opinion then you voice it! Not many folks here give two hoots for post counts - well, apart from rzm61 but he's just a post-count whore:D If he bothers you just spread some "drugs are bad!" phrases around and he'll be off like a rat up a drain-pipe LOL (J/K mate ;))

Anyway - welcome to the site Tsun - I don't think I said hello when you first joined (I could have done but I was a bit off planet yesterday lol)
Haha, a low post count has never stopped me before. I wasn't sure at the time what type of forum this was, so I made that first statement to ward off the post count whores. But in all honesty I was going to say what I wanted without a second thought.

Whats this about drugs? I'm pretty avid in my support of marijuana, and I can't tell what you mean with the whole drugs are bad phrases. So you say he'll leave, does that mean he's pro-drugs? Man, maybe I should lay off the drugs. :icon_lol:

rzm61
March 24th, 2008, 09:50 PM
Whats this about drugs? I pretty avid in my support of marijuana, and I can't tell what you mean with the whole drugs are bad phrases. So you say he'll leave, does that mean he's pro-drugs? Man, maybe I should lay off the drugs. :icon_lol:

Ah glad to see another supporter for cannabis! :D

As far as saying "drugs are bad" to ward me off, well that's just silly. Don't mind Low-key, his mouth is filled with shit seeing how he talks out of his ass. ;)

Tsun
March 24th, 2008, 09:55 PM
Ah glad to see another supporter for cannabis! :D

As far as saying "drugs are bad" to ward me off, well that's just silly. Don't mind Low-key, his mouth is filled with shit seeing how he talks out of his ass. ;)
Haha, nice.

I figured I would find at least a few smokers here, seeing as, contrary to popular belief, intelligence and weed go hand in hand. Its usually the more open minded people who smoke it, and this is a pretty open minded place.

rzm61
March 24th, 2008, 09:57 PM
Haha, nice.

I figured I would find at least a few smokers here, seeing as, contrary to popular belief, intelligence and weed go hand in hand. Its usually the more open minded people who smoke it, and this is a pretty open minded place.

Damn fucking right man!

However I like to say technology and reefer go hand in hand. I love smoking then fucking around on a computer an whatnot..... :D

Loki
March 24th, 2008, 10:06 PM
Oh Lizzie - you're not doing it right mate. You sound like a schoolie "you're shit! NO - You're shit! My dad can beat your dad!":D

Tsun - I've been a toker for more than 20 years - I do the odd hallucinogen too. Salvia is my fave at the moment (although mescaline comes a close second)

Just ignore Liz (rzm61) she gets a bit antsy at this time in the month!

Tsun
March 24th, 2008, 10:28 PM
Oh Lizzie - you're not doing it right mate. You sound like a schoolie "you're shit! NO - You're shit! My dad can beat your dad!":D

Tsun - I've been a toker for more than 20 years - I do the odd hallucinogen too. Salvia is my fave at the moment (although mescaline comes a close second)

Just ignore Liz (rzm61) she gets a bit antsy at this time in the month!
There aren't many hallucinogens going around down here, sadly. But I am about start a small shroom grow in a bit, once I stop being lazy and set everything up. Not to mention the outdoor grow season is coming up... haha

Salvia is too short and expensive for me, altough its pretty trippy if you take it the right way. I'd have to say, of what I've tried, Psilocybin has been my favorite. But there are soooo many out there, apart from the few common ones, thats there's always something new to find, if you know the right people. Thats what I'm trying to do now, try as many as I can. Just hallucinogens though, nothing hard obviously, Meth, Coke, etc. There's enough great non addicting stuff to do without that.


Wow, that was a tangent.

Loki
March 24th, 2008, 10:41 PM
We have a drugs thread somewhere.
I was thinking about trying to grow some 'shrooms as well. The spores are still legal in the UK.
Time is irrelevant when you dance with Sister Sally :D If it's too expensive then grow your own.
PS - I didn't meet you on EDiT did I :D?

rzm61
March 24th, 2008, 11:35 PM
Oh ah ha ha ha. :icon_lol:

you're soooo funny Loki!!
King of comedy here ladies and gents!

At first this comment threw me off:
Oh Lizzie - you're not doing it right mate. You sound like a schoolie "you're shit! NO - You're shit! My dad can beat your dad!":D

I started thinking; "Who the fuck is Lizzie?"
Then the sounding like a schoolie threw me off even more!

then this little token popped up:
Just ignore Liz (rzm61) she gets a bit antsy at this time in the month!

Thus connecting who Lizzie was, which was so perfectly placed to label me as a girl and then leading to a menstruation joke.

But always remember Loki,
http://www.paulgraham.ca/albums/album84/I_Taste_So_Good_Magnet_C11750833.jpeg

You should know, you've asked me for it. ;)

jlar16
March 25th, 2008, 07:19 PM
short answer: yes

Dr Goofy Mofo
March 25th, 2008, 07:23 PM
short answer: yes

That is the shortest post i have seen of yours! :icon_eek:

Loki
March 25th, 2008, 07:34 PM
short answer: yes

If that was at me then ... nice :D
Which bit of gibbering crap did you read? :D

I tend to use EDiT as a source of info and sometimes post. Usually when I post it's either Salvia tripping BS or I'm stoned (I've stopped the coke! Bad white powder!)

I think I'm Calley over there - I'm Alchemist over at The Church of the Flying Spag Monster (but I've been banned from the hatemail section LOL)

rzm61
March 25th, 2008, 08:19 PM
(I've stopped the coke! Bad white powder!)


Glad to hear it Loki.
:D

Tsun
March 25th, 2008, 09:11 PM
Crack is whack..

Anyway, I've never been on EDiT in my life.

jlar16
March 25th, 2008, 09:47 PM
oh I just meant it as a general confirmation

Which bit of gibbering crap did you read?

jlar16
March 25th, 2008, 09:48 PM
EDiT sucks EDOT is where it's at

punkinside
March 25th, 2008, 11:45 PM
And another topic bites the dust...

:icon_lol:

Tsar Phalanxia
March 26th, 2008, 11:27 PM
LOL - I knew it :D
Mate - you are so frigging predictable :D Low Key LOL - I'm amazed nobody has done that one before. Perhaps it was so obvious that the bright ones ignored it?
Very childrens hour!

If I'm the only one that cares about your post count how come I'm not the only to have mentioned it? LOL

SHIT! Mr Wednesday is coming to get you! If your name is Shadow, or you have anything to do with hanging from trees, Memphis Tennessee or Gods get away from him NOW!

Tsar Phalanxia
March 26th, 2008, 11:28 PM
To bring a bit of perspective into this...

There once was a woman, a strange kinda woman. The kind that gets written down in history!

That's where it goes flat because her name wasn't Nancy:(

Anyhoo - she used to berate Matt all the time for trying to make money from this site. She never believed him when he said he didn't! That's Communists for ya!



That is such, such a dude song. That was the song that got me into Deep Purple. And btw, I think that if Matt wants to get rid of this problem, he should become a socialist! Brothers in Arms!

Loki
March 27th, 2008, 12:00 AM
Brothers in Arms?
You were fishing for this LOL...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8M9U1OU0MzU

Tsar Phalanxia
March 27th, 2008, 08:18 PM
Huh? What's that? I've never heard of them before.