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shadow101
October 12th, 2006, 03:23 AM
Through what ways should we more established googlists help newer less established googlists to reach our and higher levels of establishment within our community

Fallen Hero
October 12th, 2006, 09:14 AM
Require a certain number of posts before a week or account is deleted?

That is one way. Really, I think a lot of them made accounts and forgot about them.

GeoffBoulton
October 12th, 2006, 09:21 AM
Talking about forgotten accounts, do we get many sign-ups for the newsletter? Should we send them to anyone who registers? They are a good way of giving someone a gentle reminder that we are here. ;)

Fallen Hero
October 12th, 2006, 09:29 AM
I like that idea. It would work.

shadow101
October 12th, 2006, 11:04 AM
that would work for the many who are actually interested in becoming a disciple of google and weed those who do not truly believe in google. this could be beneficial for those who run the site as they would not have to service as many accounts. The welcoming newsletter would possible be a good way to encourage new googlists to feel more accepted amongst us and therefore begin to make more posts

SyBerWoLff
October 12th, 2006, 02:00 PM
I don't see why any of the new members shouldn't feel welcomed to post, everyone here whose even looked in the debate forum should know how it feels to be ridiculed for who you are then leading to a very accepting society on this forum.

ladeeda
October 12th, 2006, 02:49 PM
Require a certain number of posts before a week or account is deleted?

That is one way. Really, I think a lot of them made accounts and forgot about them.

I don't think that is fair to people who want to lurk around, read posts, and get a feel for the site before they are comfortable posting. I know I do that with a lot of web forums. I think it's actually good when people at least take a look through forums before posting because it prevents some people from being complete asshats.

At any rate, if this rule is established, (which I feel it shouldn't be, I actually think it's very unfair and impractical) I think that there should be longer than a week (a month to three months) in order to accomodate for people's lives and such. Not every one who frequents the forums can do it on a daily basis. In fact, I don't really think that I've ever been a part of any forum that deleted accounts after a week of inactivity.

Googler
October 12th, 2006, 09:50 PM
Require a certain number of posts before a week or account is deleted?

That is one way. Really, I think a lot of them made accounts and forgot about them.

I don't think that is fair to people who want to lurk around, read posts, and get a feel for the site before they are comfortable posting. I know I do that with a lot of web forums. I think it's actually good when people at least take a look through forums before posting because it prevents some people from being complete asshats.

At any rate, if this rule is established, (which I feel it shouldn't be, I actually think it's very unfair and impractical) I think that there should be longer than a week (a month to three months) in order to accomodate for people's lives and such. Not every one who frequents the forums can do it on a daily basis. In fact, I don't really think that I've ever been a part of any forum that deleted accounts after a week of inactivity.

This could also help with people registering multiple accounts.

AaronD
October 12th, 2006, 10:38 PM
Require a certain number of posts before a week or account is deleted?

That is one way. Really, I think a lot of them made accounts and forgot about them.

I don't think that is fair to people who want to lurk around, read posts, and get a feel for the site before they are comfortable posting. I know I do that with a lot of web forums. I think it's actually good when people at least take a look through forums before posting because it prevents some people from being complete asshats.

At any rate, if this rule is established, (which I feel it shouldn't be, I actually think it's very unfair and impractical) I think that there should be longer than a week (a month to three months) in order to accomodate for people's lives and such. Not every one who frequents the forums can do it on a daily basis. In fact, I don't really think that I've ever been a part of any forum that deleted accounts after a week of inactivity.

This could also help with people registering multiple accounts.

If I remember correctly, there is an option in the ACP to only allow one account per IP.

MeTHoD-X
October 12th, 2006, 11:20 PM
Require a certain number of posts before a week or account is deleted?

That is one way. Really, I think a lot of them made accounts and forgot about them.

I don't think that is fair to people who want to lurk around, read posts, and get a feel for the site before they are comfortable posting. I know I do that with a lot of web forums. I think it's actually good when people at least take a look through forums before posting because it prevents some people from being complete asshats.

At any rate, if this rule is established, (which I feel it shouldn't be, I actually think it's very unfair and impractical) I think that there should be longer than a week (a month to three months) in order to accomodate for people's lives and such. Not every one who frequents the forums can do it on a daily basis. In fact, I don't really think that I've ever been a part of any forum that deleted accounts after a week of inactivity.

I agree with you 100%. ALL forums have way more registered users than actual active users. The forgotten accounts aren't hurting anyone so I have no problem with them at all. It's to be expected when running a forum.

Anonymous
October 12th, 2006, 11:21 PM
Talking about forgotten accounts, do we get many sign-ups for the newsletter? Should we send them to anyone who registers? They are a good way of giving someone a gentle reminder that we are here. ;)

I have used this tactic before in my own forums and it works great everytime. It helps you weed out old accounts at the same time.

Every once in a while I send out a mass email or mass pm. I only do it when there is something cool the members should know about. Like when you accomplish something in the forum "to do" list.

It reminds people they are members and provides a link (for those that forgot to bookmark it and deleted the confirmation email)

MeTHoD-X
October 12th, 2006, 11:28 PM
Talking about forgotten accounts, do we get many sign-ups for the newsletter? Should we send them to anyone who registers? They are a good way of giving someone a gentle reminder that we are here. ;)

I have used this tactic before in my own forums and it works great everytime. It helps you weed out old accounts at the same time.

Every once in a while I send out a mass email or mass pm. I only do it when there is something cool the members should know about. Like when you accomplish something in the forum "to do" list.

It reminds people they are members and provides a link (for those that forgot to bookmark it and deleted the confirmation email)

That's actually a very good idea... I'm going to do this every month or so. I don't want to end up spamming the members though. Spam is but the work of Microsoft. :wink:

And we have about 500+ newsletter subscriptions by the way.

Googler
October 12th, 2006, 11:32 PM
And we have about 500+ newsletter subscriptions by the way.

Impressive :o

Jillamanda
October 13th, 2006, 05:47 AM
I agree with you 100%. ALL forums have way more registered users than actual active users. The forgotten accounts aren't hurting anyone so I have no problem with them at all. It's to be expected when running a forum.

I don't know how many forums I've registered at and never posted. I must have registered as 'Son of God' on one once, and promptly forgotten about it - until I got an email on Christmas Day saying 'Happy Birthday, Son of God'.......... :oops:

Fallen Hero
October 13th, 2006, 09:41 AM
Hehe I once registered as Anti-Christ, then forgot and got the letter saying the boards deleted my account. Haha Christian Forums. (I was being mean with my name.)

SirRuben
October 13th, 2006, 12:40 PM
Hehe I once registered as Anti-Christ, then forgot and got the letter saying the boards deleted my account. Haha Christian Forums. (I was being mean with my name.)

Talk about tolerance :roll:

Fallen Hero
October 13th, 2006, 12:44 PM
Hehe I once registered as Anti-Christ, then forgot and got the letter saying the boards deleted my account. Haha Christian Forums. (I was being mean with my name.)

Talk about tolerance :roll:

I was young. Roughly 14. You just do not think at that age.

MeTHoD-X
October 13th, 2006, 01:24 PM
I agree with you 100%. ALL forums have way more registered users than actual active users. The forgotten accounts aren't hurting anyone so I have no problem with them at all. It's to be expected when running a forum.

I don't know how many forums I've registered at and never posted. I must have registered as 'Son of God' on one once, and promptly forgotten about it - until I got an email on Christmas Day saying 'Happy Birthday, Son of God'.......... :oops:

Holy fuck, how drunk were you Jill? :wink:

SirRuben
October 13th, 2006, 02:05 PM
Hehe I once registered as Anti-Christ, then forgot and got the letter saying the boards deleted my account. Haha Christian Forums. (I was being mean with my name.)

Talk about tolerance :roll:

I was young. Roughly 14. You just do not think at that age.

I meant them, for deleting your account :D

Fallen Hero
October 13th, 2006, 03:01 PM
Ah.

praisetheholygoogle
October 14th, 2006, 02:49 AM
Make them ministers thats why I joined atleast and like if it takes too long I could see many getting uninterested.

Fallen Hero
October 14th, 2006, 07:40 PM
Make them ministers thats why I joined atleast and like if it takes too long I could see many getting uninterested.

Heh, Being a minister should not be why they signed up, if that were the case for Christianity, there would be no Christians left. We have already many times explained how to become a minister. It is not easy, but being a minister is not always the easiest thing in the world.

Alice Shade
October 15th, 2006, 01:29 AM
Joining just to become minister is quite dumb, to tell the truth. If you people really wish to be CALLED ministers, just copy over the minister banner link, and go show off in all the forums you discuss your things at.

On other hand, having an ambition to aspire to minister in a time, while joining because you do want to further the cause of Googlism... or just to be a good guy to pat on shoulder and say "Good job, everyone.", then it`s quite alright.

Nameless
October 16th, 2006, 06:54 AM
The obvious way to make people feel more welcome to post is to just treat everyone equally, regardless of trivial things such as post count, but aside from that basic thing there isn't much.

Or give them a cookie. :D

Require a certain number of posts before a week or account is deleted?

That is one way. Really, I think a lot of them made accounts and forgot about them.

I don't think that is fair to people who want to lurk around, read posts, and get a feel for the site before they are comfortable posting. I know I do that with a lot of web forums. I think it's actually good when people at least take a look through forums before posting because it prevents some people from being complete asshats.

At any rate, if this rule is established, (which I feel it shouldn't be, I actually think it's very unfair and impractical) I think that there should be longer than a week (a month to three months) in order to accomodate for people's lives and such. Not every one who frequents the forums can do it on a daily basis. In fact, I don't really think that I've ever been a part of any forum that deleted accounts after a week of inactivity.

I agree with you 100%. ALL forums have way more registered users than actual active users. The forgotten accounts aren't hurting anyone so I have no problem with them at all. It's to be expected when running a forum.

And all those inactive accounts still make the forum look bigger at first glance. :wink: I don't see any problem with them, unless they're adbots.

And we have about 500+ newsletter subscriptions by the way.

:o Nice.

11th Hour Church Disciple
November 3rd, 2006, 04:36 AM
Two suggestions:

1.) Set up a games area for fun to keep users interested (sort of like how the jokes are fun and interesting).

We will start and spread typical forum games, such as mafia, to reach out to new members and spread our influence.

2.) Some may not be convinced of Google's dietyness. I think we need a thread created solely for the debate of whether Google exists as a deity or not, to convince any disbelievers. I'd be more than happy to be in the debate to help the cause. If people are convinced w/o a doubt that Google is God, more are likely to come, and we have more of a case against that hate mail that's always fun to read.

Troen
November 3rd, 2006, 06:25 AM
...Or give them a cookie ...



I'd post for a cookie...

Alice Shade
November 3rd, 2006, 03:10 PM
Games don`t sound like a good idea...

Because they would give wrong idea to forum-goers. We`re not game-forum, are we? So no use misleading people.

11th Hour Church Disciple
November 3rd, 2006, 08:50 PM
We're not necessarily a joke site either, but it creates interest for other users to come. It could fit in the Not Moderated section nicely.

MeTHoD-X
November 4th, 2006, 12:34 AM
We're not necessarily a joke site either, but it creates interest for other users to come. It could fit in the Not Moderated section nicely.

Hmmm maybe I'll give it a try then.

Alice Shade
November 4th, 2006, 01:22 AM
Well, if they would be used...

You need an audience of at least 3 persons for mafia. (Ideally 6-12 persons, I think.) If we are big enough for that, it would be quite fun...

Hum, maybe with themed characters, that is.

Are there other games?

Something, that could be played at more relaxed pace?

11th Hour Church Disciple
November 4th, 2006, 06:01 AM
Ideally if I could get 9-12 players for mafia I could make a good game, I'd like at least 7, but we could work it out with less. I'd enjoy helping teach new players.

And there are plenty of other games, casual and more relaxed games are just simple posting games such as rating threads. Rating people's avatars, signatures, user profiles etc. I dunno why, but people seem to love them. I guess it's something simple to do when you're bored.

I've seen a stupid question stupid answer game, and vice versa. One player posts a stupid answer to the previously stated question, and then posts a stupid question to be answered. The reverse of this is where you have to post a question that is answered by the previously posted stupid answer.

There is also Ready Aim Fire. Basically every player has 3 choices. You can shoot another player, yourself, or nothing. If you shoot yourself and nobody else shoots you, you die. If you shoot somebody who shoots themself, they live and you die. If the person you shoot does not shoot themself they die. If you shoot nothing it's basically no action. Start a new round with the remaining players until only one remains. If a round would result in everybody dying, instead nobody dies and you do another round.

We could do RPG games. DND on forums seems to be popular.

Not to mention people always find their own games to start or create.

And I can come up with more ideas later... I'm feeling a little sick since I haven't had any time to eat today.

Alice Shade
November 4th, 2006, 06:18 AM
If we`re going to do THAT, we can just get back to the idea of Google MUSH.

How about something simpler for starters? DnD is surely gamers-only stuff.

Fallen Hero
November 4th, 2006, 07:23 AM
If we`re going to do THAT, we can just get back to the idea of Google MUSH.

How about something simpler for starters? DnD is surely gamers-only stuff.

DnD is easy to learn, but takes too much time and is hard to run with many players, if we do that, you may end up with an army of PC's to run combat and everything for. Too complicated (proud gamer).

11th Hour Church Disciple
November 5th, 2006, 08:08 AM
How about something simpler for starters?

Any examples of what you have in mind for 'simpler'?

Ooh, since this is for Google, I'm reminded of all those sites like thisisnotporn.com and notpr0n and such that require Google searching. Maybe we can set up some sort of riddle based game involving Google searches.

We could have one person start the thread with a riddle, and everybody keeps posting trying to figure out what it is. When somebody finally gets it, they start with the next riddle.

Now one of the biggest problems is getting people who won't or can't make riddles, so we'll either have to leave the option to have a previous player post a new riddle, or just have designated riddlers who post riddles.

And I don't want you to get the wrong idea, I don't want to recreate notpr0n on these boards, merely the google aspects of it. To recreate a new notpr0n would be too much for a simple game. This is mostly a search and try to figure out the answer type of thing. Clever riddlers will find ways to incorporate more than just the typical search function.

Fallen Hero
November 5th, 2006, 09:15 AM
This is sort of being done in a variant way.

Kokoba
November 12th, 2006, 06:06 PM
Mafia on a forum? I wouldn't think to try that, I've just played it at summer camp.

I mod another forum and basically to welcome people we encourage them to post in the "What are you listening to now?", "What movie(s) did you watch last?" and "What did you just buy?" threads.