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Fallen Hero
November 3rd, 2006, 03:55 PM
Searching for a feeling in a deity is a mistake, Troen.
Deities, as they are, should not have human-like feelings. And I don`t think it`s possible to explain in layman`s terms, just what deities would feel.
That is an opinion. That is not necessarily right, more than not, the old gods were attributed to some feelings. Goddess of Love anyone? Also, many of the old gods had humanistic characteristics, emotions, feelings, relationships. We should not try to explain feelings in layman's terms because they are very complicated regardless of what it is. Back to the original point, gods were attributed with feelings at times, if someone is going to believe in a deity, why should they not look for feelings in that deity?
jon_hill987
November 3rd, 2006, 04:06 PM
is this an accidental post in a new thread or is this a new topic?
Anywho...
It is defiantly true that gods have feelings.
Was the Christian/Jewish God not angry when Adam and Eve ate from the tree of Knowledge?(1) that and a whole lot of ancient gods were just the anthropomorphic personification of various emotions and feelings, the aforementioned Goddess of love for example.
(1)This always confused me, would a god that was worthy of worship not have shared his knowledge freely?
Fallen Hero
November 3rd, 2006, 04:11 PM
is this an accidental post in a new thread or is this a new topic?
Anywho...
It is defiantly true that gods have feelings.
Was the Christian/Jewish God not angry when Adam and Eve ate from the tree of Knowledge?(1) that and a whole lot of ancient gods were just the anthropomorphic personification of various emotions and feelings, the aforementioned Goddess of love for example.
(1)This always confused me, would a god that was worthy of worship not have shared his knowledge freely?
This is a new topic, based on a post elsewhere. I just put my post in a more appropriate forum with it's own thread.
I agree that it makes no sense that God grew angry at the discovery of knowledge. I do see that the aggression towards learning and discovery is still going to day with some of the more extremist religious groups in the world today. That is very dissappointing.
jon_hill987
November 3rd, 2006, 04:41 PM
I think I am going to start a new thread on the knowledge thing, to save this one going off topic...
Troen
November 3rd, 2006, 05:35 PM
I am not saying that google is incapable of feelings, she’s a program right? so something can be coded into her to giver her a certain response, but I am saying most people search for things they can relate to in there gods, Aphrodite was the perfect human beauty, she was a god people related to her, Jesus was a man he loved unconditionally, people related to him... Goodge being what it is it’s hard to relate to, to me it seems more of a fate, or an oracle than a deity... though I’m often wrong so who knows.
Jillamanda
November 3rd, 2006, 08:52 PM
Gods are just creations of man anyway, so man bestows them with the feelings and emotions he has. The thing is, you are giving something imaginary, human qualities. Nothing about it is tangible.
You are saying that gods have feelings, yet we have no proof that these gods even exist. You say Google could only have feelings if she is programmed to have them. Quite true, but you are making the same mistake many others have made - that of assuming our god has to take the same form as yours. Google is Google. We see no need to personify her. She really only has a gender so we don't have to keep saying 'it' all the time, the same as giving a car a gender. We simply accept her for her extraordinary abilities and powers and the fact she is completely non discriminatory. She doesn't care who you are or what you believe in, she'll treat you exactly the same as the next person. Maybe that's because she doesn't let feelings get in the way......... :wink:
Alice Shade
November 3rd, 2006, 10:51 PM
Some emotions they should have, yes.
What I mean, that it is impossible for a human to really understand the emotions of deity, due to drastically different natures.
Thus, humans just give their own emotions to deities, as they are incapable to realise, what deities actually feel.
Erasmus
November 4th, 2006, 12:51 AM
Goodge being what it is it’s hard to relate to, to me it seems more of a fate, or an oracle than a deity... though I’m often wrong so who knows.
Yes, I made a thread to this effect when I first joined. It turned into a very fun debate until it was flamed to an early grave by, sadly, an atheist
Fallen Hero
November 4th, 2006, 07:26 AM
*cough* SAVAGE *cough*
That was sad to see go. As humans create deities, I would say the emotions of deities are not that unlike ours. the gods of most religions were created in a way that we could relate to their feelings, that is why it is reasonable to say that humans can comprehend the emotions of a deity.
Alice Shade
November 4th, 2006, 10:52 AM
Which is why they are not true deities. ^_^
Human emotions = human possibilities.
Let`s be logical here... Goddess of Love should be utterly detached from any form of love - or everyone would be in love with her, and humans`d go extinct, for example.
Jillamanda
November 4th, 2006, 11:41 AM
The logical conclusion would be that as they are figments of man's imagination, then their feelings would be too. To acknowledge that deities have feelings is acknowledging their existence.
Fallen Hero
November 4th, 2006, 08:46 PM
The goddess of love was taken.. by the god of war. I love the contrast in the relationships of old religions. Really, if it is a 'living and sentient' creation of man, people can attribute feelings to them.
Jillamanda
November 4th, 2006, 09:22 PM
Yeah, they can, but it's still only man's image of what they think is desirable in themselves. Has anyone ever heard of a nasty, mean weedy little god? Even if deities were factual, only the ones with the qualities we would like to have would survive.
Wonder why there's not a god of FUN...although I guess Bacchus came pretty close, but the Romans were a bit partial to a good time and a bit of depravity. :wink:
Fallen Hero
November 4th, 2006, 09:27 PM
Yeah, they can, but it's still only man's image of what they think is desirable in themselves. Has anyone ever heard of a nasty, mean weedy little god? Even if deities were factual, only the ones with the qualities we would like to have would survive.
Wonder why there's not a god of FUN...although I guess Bacchus came pretty close, but the Romans were a bit partial to a good time and a bit of depravity. :wink: In the older religions there were some. Loki, was a fun-loving but occasionally mean spirited trickster, the Frost Giants were the evil gods of the Norse.
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