Respect

[SyBerWoLff]

Just a random thought/vent i guess..

Who deserves respect? Does the fact that one person is older than another person really mean that the younger should respect the older? What does age have to do with it? Certainly older people have had more time and on a general scalee more experience but that is not a solid state, a younger person could have more life experience than that of an elder, it completly depends on the people. And should age really matter, or be the most important when the two people really don't even know eachother? The younger may actually deserve more respect than the elder, but whos to know if they don't know eachother.

How much should age really matter? In a world of knowledge does age really determine that ammount of respect one should deserve, or does motivation and capability determine it? But what does it matter if one cannot truly change the way another acts, And if old look upon the young as the future, and see that they have so much potential and tell them to be leaders, then why belittle them by demanding such respect for themselves?

[Googler]

Just a random thought/vent i guess..

Who deserves respect? Does the fact that one person is older than another person really mean that the younger should respect the older? What does age have to do with it? Certainly older people have had more time and on a general scalee more experience but that is not a solid state, a younger person could have more life experience than that of an elder, it completly depends on the people. And should age really matter, or be the most important when the two people really don't even know eachother? The younger may actually deserve more respect than the elder, but whos to know if they don't know eachother.

How much should age really matter? In a world of knowledge does age really determine that ammount of respect one should deserve, or does motivation and capability determine it? But what does it matter if one cannot truly change the way another acts, And if old look upon the young as the future, and see that they have so much potential and tell them to be leaders, then why belittle them by demanding such respect for themselves?

You have a point. In all reality, you can know an adult online and they will fully respect you because you have superior knowledge, but if you were to talk to the same person in real life they feel differently. In their eyes being older makes them deserve more respect.

[Fallen Hero]

I respect everyone who is older than me, my age and younger. So long as they do not do something to lose that respect.

[SyBerWoLff]

Yea, the whole thing was brought up because I got into a..... quarrel at school today and one of the teachers broke it up and was trying to get me to leave and goto the office, I would very well have co-operated but my $200 palm pilot was sitting on the table and you'll be damned if im going to leave it there so I tried reaching for it and he was pushing me away, finally someone picked it up and gave it to me, so he told me to leave my stuff at the lunch table and go so i did, and then in the hall he was yelling at me for disrespecting him and not listening to him when he tried to get me to leave. I appologised to him and told him why I was trying to get that and he still gave me hell for it.

[Fallen Hero]

What crap.

Next time explain to him calmly as you are trying to get the palm pilot or etc. Why, if they do not let you, back off, it is just not worth the hassle, the teacher will probably keep it safe (if they are any good). :wink:

[SyBerWoLff]

I was actually calm the whole time ( a bunch of people mentioned that to me, one person was like "YOU WERE SO CALM"...) I've learned to control my anger over the years :P.

The problem is I'm not a talker, If I don't need to talk, I usually don't....

[Kokoba]

It's pretty much a question of whether you think respect is something inherently given or earned.

With some people I automatically respect them--intelligent professors or teachers, my parents--because they're obviously in a situation to know more and to be better-advised about some things than I am.

With others I tend to treat them as on par with myself until I know enough about them to decide where they go on the "respect ladder." My level of respect for a person doesn't ever change how I treat them--just what I think of them and what I say about them when they're not around. ;)

With high school teachers, a lot of them are just flakey and insecure about their power status, like if they are not instantly and compliantly obeyed with every command, no matter how minor, then for them that opens up a ludicrous slippery slope of total disobedience and disrespect.

Syber, where in NY are you? I'm currently in upstateish NY myself, over by Utica.

[SyBerWoLff]

Lake george area. More east of utica about an hour or 2 i think.

[Kokoba]

Yeah, about that. While my family was doing the college tour circuit, we took a break in between Middlebury and Hamilton (where I am now) to stay at Lake George. Absolutely gorgeous.

[SyBerWoLff]

Yes it is a very beautiful area, I love going hiking, Im a bit south of Lake george, not in the state park, in a small place called South Glens Falls (yes, we are south of Glens Falls :P) It's where Cooper's Cave is which is a setting in 'The Last of the Mohicans'... Just a whee tidbit of trivia :P

[Kokoba]

Last of the Mohicans!! I totally heart that book. And I also love how Mark Twain endlessly rips on it.

I didn't know that cave was based on a real place, that's pretty cool.

[SyBerWoLff]

Yup, we have a little viewing area to see it..... it's nothing spectacular XD just a big hole in the rocks... can't go in or anything just look at it.

[Alice Shade]

For me, respect is only what could be earned, not what could be automatically bestowed.

And, to be frank, berating for not having respect to someone means that this someone IS not a respectful person, to begin with.


As for this particular case...
I`d suggest - "Excuse me, but I want to retrieve my property. If I won`t be able to, because you won`t let me, I WILL sue you for property damages and robbery attempt. Now let me get it, and I won`t call the police."

[SyBerWoLff]

yea im sure that would go over well at school....

[Alice Shade]

Better, then you think.

Self-justification is a powerful force, and people usually back up, if they might end up being accused of crime and have money loss incured on them. Moral high ground, see... If you`d force your way past teacher, you disrespect him, and give him moral high to yell. If you say he`s robbing you, and it`s obvious he does - then you have moral high ground.