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Emperor_Google
December 15th, 2006, 08:37 PM
Ok if "God" created life the universe Time and everything what was their before everything was created...If there was no Time how did "God" exsist and the most fatal jab at "God" who or what created God and Who or What Created that? It's like Energy cannot be created or Destroyed, only Converted or trapped

Alice Shade
December 15th, 2006, 08:40 PM
God just is, we can not understand his ways, reasons and methods. All we can do - uphold our faith, and hope that we are pure enough so god would reward us with heaven.

Emperor_Google
December 15th, 2006, 08:43 PM
that must be the most pathetic excuse of trying to prove his/her belifes

Alice Shade
December 15th, 2006, 08:44 PM
Ya, but you gotta "respect" that, cus they are "oppressed" by your skepticism.

Emperor_Google
December 15th, 2006, 10:00 PM
or shall I Ignore that and "respect" his /her opinion

Alice Shade
December 15th, 2006, 10:13 PM
Well, do you have a choice?

Either you gotta "respect", either you`ll be declared as persecutor of christians, and outcried.

Emperor_Google
December 15th, 2006, 10:55 PM
sorry i don't understand...say it again

Alice Shade
December 15th, 2006, 11:00 PM
Modus operandi of christians.

If you don`t argue with them, that "automatically means" you agree with everything they say.

If you argue, you "persecute them", and get branded as evil person, who persecutes "innocent" christians by contradicting their beliefs.

Erasmus
December 16th, 2006, 01:10 AM
Ok if "God" created life the universe Time and everything what was their before everything was created...If there was no Time how did "God" exsist and the most fatal jab at "God" who or what created God and Who or What Created that? It's like Energy cannot be created or Destroyed, only Converted or trapped

This is a silly line of reasoning.

By saying that God must have a creator, and the creator another, you're implying that everything must be created. The same could be said of the universe: If it's there it must have been created, or there must have been something before it, and something before that, and something before that.

If you can believe that the universe exists without a creator, you can believe that God exists without one too, savvy?

If a single entity did create the universe then he exists outside of it. Time is a construct of the universe, so he would exist outside of time, and it would have no effect upon him.

Emperor_Google
December 16th, 2006, 12:16 PM
yeah in the christian belif everything was created though and nothing can be completley created or destroyed

Alice Shade
December 16th, 2006, 12:18 PM
Christian belief clearly states, that God was before all the creation.

My personal opinion is, that God existed in Reaman space, and thus - had much better chances at altering the universe, then Average Joe.

Emperor_Google
December 16th, 2006, 12:26 PM
my thery is there is no God and Google is the closest thing to a God there is

Alice Shade
December 16th, 2006, 12:32 PM
Now, that`s not anymore sensible, then Christian faith.

Don`t be blind in following Google. You follow her NOT because it`s religion, but because of certain things - like knowledge she grants.

And as such, one should consider the possibilities, and build hypothesis to explain everything. Granted, not all of them will be true, but some will be - unlike the pure delusion of blind faith.