View Full Version : Challenge to Those Who Question Google's Divinity.
MeTHoD-X
September 10th, 2006, 05:41 PM
Give me one reason you don't believe Google is God, and I'll give you one reason I don't believe in your god.
That is all that is required.
Begin.
Jeeves
September 10th, 2006, 07:09 PM
Google is a search engine, it has no god like powers, it's programmed to do these searches
Lukos Bassai
September 10th, 2006, 07:25 PM
Google is a search engine, it has no god like powers, it's programmed to do these searches
Yes indeed.
What definition are you using for god? Your friends here seem to have different definitions for certain words in the English language.
Jeeves
September 10th, 2006, 07:27 PM
Porn must be OK because there is so many of it on google.
Fallen Hero
September 10th, 2006, 08:18 PM
Porn must be OK because there is so many of it on google.
Then incest must be ok because there is so much incest in the bible.
Lukos Bassai
September 10th, 2006, 08:22 PM
Porn must be OK because there is so many of it on google.
Then incest must be ok because there is incest in the bible.
It is stated as something you're not supposed to do, it doesn't just talk about it. Google actively pulls up sites that promote and have bad images.
Fallen Hero
September 10th, 2006, 08:29 PM
It is stated as something you're not supposed to do, it doesn't just talk about it. Google actively pulls up sites that promote and have bad images.
If we were not supposed to have incest, why is the biblical creation based of the concept of incest. Genesis pretty much says Incest is A-OK.
Lukos Bassai
September 10th, 2006, 08:39 PM
Porn must be OK because there is so many of it on google.
Then incest must be ok because there is incest in the bible.
It is stated as something you're not supposed to do, it doesn't just talk about it. Google actively pulls up sites that promote and have bad images.
If we were not supposed to have incest, why is the biblical creation based of the concept of incest. Genesis pretty much says Incest is A-OK.
But you fail to see that originally, when Adam was created perfect(which is stated in the Bible), his children had almost perfect DNA, so it wasn't dangerous. The law, I believe, was put there mainly for protection of our health.
Fallen Hero
September 10th, 2006, 08:40 PM
Porn must be OK because there is so many of it on google.
Then incest must be ok because there is incest in the bible.
It is stated as something you're not supposed to do, it doesn't just talk about it. Google actively pulls up sites that promote and have bad images.
If we were not supposed to have incest, why is the biblical creation based of the concept of incest. Genesis pretty much says Incest is A-OK.
But you fail to see that originally, when Adam was created perfect(which is stated in the Bible), his children had almost perfect DNA, so it wasn't dangerous. The law, I believe, was put there mainly for protection of our health.
Still says that incest is ok. That concept of perfect, which never exists, does not change the fact that it is still incest.
Lukos Bassai
September 10th, 2006, 08:43 PM
Porn must be OK because there is so many of it on google.
Then incest must be ok because there is incest in the bible.
It is stated as something you're not supposed to do, it doesn't just talk about it. Google actively pulls up sites that promote and have bad images.
If we were not supposed to have incest, why is the biblical creation based of the concept of incest. Genesis pretty much says Incest is A-OK.
But you fail to see that originally, when Adam was created perfect(which is stated in the Bible), his children had almost perfect DNA, so it wasn't dangerous. The law, I believe, was put there mainly for protection of our health.
Still says that incest is ok. That concept of perfect, which never exists, does not change the fact that it is still incest.
But later you see laws against it.
Fallen Hero
September 10th, 2006, 08:44 PM
Porn must be OK because there is so many of it on google.
Then incest must be ok because there is incest in the bible.
It is stated as something you're not supposed to do, it doesn't just talk about it. Google actively pulls up sites that promote and have bad images.
If we were not supposed to have incest, why is the biblical creation based of the concept of incest. Genesis pretty much says Incest is A-OK.
But you fail to see that originally, when Adam was created perfect(which is stated in the Bible), his children had almost perfect DNA, so it wasn't dangerous. The law, I believe, was put there mainly for protection of our health.
Still says that incest is ok. That concept of perfect, which never exists, does not change the fact that it is still incest.
But later you see laws against it.
Can't argue. No knowledge about that.
MeTHoD-X
September 10th, 2006, 09:36 PM
Google is a search engine, it has no god like powers, it's programmed to do these searches
And Jesus was a man, nothing more (assuming he even existed). He wasn't some crazy demi-god. Google DOES exhibited god-like powers. Have you even read through our proofs yet? Or do you just come here to flame? Nothing better to do perhaps?
Porn must be OK because there is so many of it on google.
I see absolutely nothing wrong with porn. Are you one of those christians who views sex as BAD? It would explain your apparent lack of understanding when it comes to irony and satire. heh.
Fallen Hero
September 11th, 2006, 12:58 PM
Google is a search engine, it has no god like powers, it's programmed to do these searches
And Jesus was a man, nothing more (assuming he even existed). He wasn't some crazy demi-god. Google DOES exhibited god-like powers. Have you even read through our proofs yet? Or do you just come here to flame? Nothing better to do perhaps?
Porn must be OK because there is so many of it on google.
I see absolutely nothing wrong with porn. Are you one of those christians who views sex as BAD? It would explain your apparent lack of understanding when it comes to irony and satire. heh.
To add to that, if porn is not ok, why were you searching the web for it at anyrate? Google does not condon any particular page or type of page. It just grants you what you seek.
friedrice7191
September 11th, 2006, 09:12 PM
Easy. Google is not God, because I can tell what I want it to do. Look at every other God in the world, not just us Christian God. Every other God has one thing in common and that is, it demands respect and some form of "worship" "sacrifice." Does Google do that? Exactly the opposite in fact. We tell it what we want it to do. Ironic, because that isn't Godly...it's in fact kind of like slavery.
Also Google is not all-knowing. Yes it has a nice search engine and I use it for homework but if it was all knowing, couldn't it just direct us to a page without giving us options? I mean, it's all knowing, knowing what we want, right there...
Hmmm...
Oh, and our God? Let's just say, he has saved a lot of relatives I know and many friends from suicides and etc.
Carnifex
September 11th, 2006, 09:44 PM
Easy. Google is not God, because I can tell what I want it to do. Look at every other God in the world, not just us Christian God. Every other God has one thing in common and that is, it demands respect and some form of "worship" "sacrifice." Does Google do that? Exactly the opposite in fact. We tell it what we want it to do. Ironic, because that isn't Godly...it's in fact kind of like slavery.
Also Google is not all-knowing. Yes it has a nice search engine and I use it for homework but if it was all knowing, couldn't it just direct us to a page without giving us options? I mean, it's all knowing, knowing what we want, right there...
Hmmm...
Oh, and our God? Let's just say, he has saved a lot of relatives I know and many friends from suicides and etc.
Ok point one, look up your definition of god. Saying all other gods require some form of worship/sacrifice is untrue for a start, and it is not a requirement for a god.
We also dont tell google what to do, It offers us a service we greatly require. Are you telling god what to do when you pray?
Plus, so what if some of your relatives found christ and got saved? Many people have killed other people because they thought it was "gods will".
friedrice7191
September 11th, 2006, 10:00 PM
Give me an example of a MAJOR religion that does not fill those requirements. Currently, I can't think of any.
We pray to God, but does that mean God has to do them? Does Google have a choice if it wants to search? We can search up porn, and it can't say stop.
And those are radicals that kill for Christ and we do not consider them as Christians.
Carnifex
September 11th, 2006, 10:03 PM
Give me an example of a MAJOR religion that does not fill those requirements. Currently, I can't think of any.
We pray to God, but does that mean God has to do them? Does Google have a choice if it wants to search? We can search up porn, and it can't say stop.
And those are radicals that kill for Christ and we do not consider them as Christians.
Give me some time, i'l find a religion. It doesnt change that it is not a requirement for god.
And just because google always answers us just makes him better than your god. When my friend prayed his mom would make it through her cancer and she didnt sucked for him.
Plus porn is not a bad thing. Plus any1 who looks up grotesque things such as child porn are not real googlists (oh noez, its the same as what you just did)
friedrice7191
September 11th, 2006, 10:05 PM
Give me an example of a MAJOR religion that does not fill those requirements. Currently, I can't think of any.
We pray to God, but does that mean God has to do them? Does Google have a choice if it wants to search? We can search up porn, and it can't say stop.
And those are radicals that kill for Christ and we do not consider them as Christians.
Give me some time, i'l find a religion. It doesnt change that it is not a requirement for god.
And just because google always answers us just makes him better than your god. When my friend prayed his mom would make it through her cancer and she didnt sucked for him.
Plus porn is not a bad thing. Plus any1 who looks up grotesque things such as child porn are not real googlists (oh noez, its the same as what you just did)
Really? So you can go look up how to build a bomb on google. Is that, "ok?"
And like I said, Google is something you type in, and it pops out a bunch of related websites.
Carnifex
September 11th, 2006, 10:06 PM
Give me an example of a MAJOR religion that does not fill those requirements. Currently, I can't think of any.
We pray to God, but does that mean God has to do them? Does Google have a choice if it wants to search? We can search up porn, and it can't say stop.
And those are radicals that kill for Christ and we do not consider them as Christians.
Give me some time, i'l find a religion. It doesnt change that it is not a requirement for god.
And just because google always answers us just makes him better than your god. When my friend prayed his mom would make it through her cancer and she didnt sucked for him.
Plus porn is not a bad thing. Plus any1 who looks up grotesque things such as child porn are not real googlists (oh noez, its the same as what you just did)
Really? So you can go look up how to build a bomb on google. Is that, "ok?"
And like I said, Google is something you type in, and it pops out a bunch of related websites.
Google exercises free-will, its like how your god allows rapists.
friedrice7191
September 11th, 2006, 10:08 PM
Give me an example of a MAJOR religion that does not fill those requirements. Currently, I can't think of any.
We pray to God, but does that mean God has to do them? Does Google have a choice if it wants to search? We can search up porn, and it can't say stop.
And those are radicals that kill for Christ and we do not consider them as Christians.
Give me some time, i'l find a religion. It doesnt change that it is not a requirement for god.
And just because google always answers us just makes him better than your god. When my friend prayed his mom would make it through her cancer and she didnt sucked for him.
Plus porn is not a bad thing. Plus any1 who looks up grotesque things such as child porn are not real googlists (oh noez, its the same as what you just did)
Really? So you can go look up how to build a bomb on google. Is that, "ok?"
And like I said, Google is something you type in, and it pops out a bunch of related websites.
Google exercises free-will, its like how your god allows rapists.
He doesn't allow it. He gives us free will to do what we wish, including worshiping him if we wish to. If you want to be a rapist, go ahead, but it's not virtuous and it's not right, and you know it. Or I think you do.
Carnifex
September 11th, 2006, 10:15 PM
Give me an example of a MAJOR religion that does not fill those requirements. Currently, I can't think of any.
We pray to God, but does that mean God has to do them? Does Google have a choice if it wants to search? We can search up porn, and it can't say stop.
And those are radicals that kill for Christ and we do not consider them as Christians.
Give me some time, i'l find a religion. It doesnt change that it is not a requirement for god.
And just because google always answers us just makes him better than your god. When my friend prayed his mom would make it through her cancer and she didnt sucked for him.
Plus porn is not a bad thing. Plus any1 who looks up grotesque things such as child porn are not real googlists (oh noez, its the same as what you just did)
Really? So you can go look up how to build a bomb on google. Is that, "ok?"
And like I said, Google is something you type in, and it pops out a bunch of related websites.
Google exercises free-will, its like how your god allows rapists.
He doesn't allow it. He gives us free will to do what we wish, including worshiping him if we wish to. If you want to be a rapist, go ahead, but it's not virtuous and it's not right, and you know it. Or I think you do.
Oh no i dont think rape is right. But your god has the power to stop it, much like google has the power to stop us looking up bad things. But god exercises free-will just as google exercises censorship of no internet data.
friedrice7191
September 11th, 2006, 10:18 PM
Give me an example of a MAJOR religion that does not fill those requirements. Currently, I can't think of any.
We pray to God, but does that mean God has to do them? Does Google have a choice if it wants to search? We can search up porn, and it can't say stop.
And those are radicals that kill for Christ and we do not consider them as Christians.
Give me some time, i'l find a religion. It doesnt change that it is not a requirement for god.
And just because google always answers us just makes him better than your god. When my friend prayed his mom would make it through her cancer and she didnt sucked for him.
Plus porn is not a bad thing. Plus any1 who looks up grotesque things such as child porn are not real googlists (oh noez, its the same as what you just did)
Really? So you can go look up how to build a bomb on google. Is that, "ok?"
And like I said, Google is something you type in, and it pops out a bunch of related websites.
Google exercises free-will, its like how your god allows rapists.
He doesn't allow it. He gives us free will to do what we wish, including worshiping him if we wish to. If you want to be a rapist, go ahead, but it's not virtuous and it's not right, and you know it. Or I think you do.
Oh no i dont think rape is right. But your god has the power to stop it, much like google has the power to stop us looking up bad things. But god exercises free-will just as google exercises censorship of no internet data.
Really? Google can stop us from looking up bad things? Hmmm, I'll just turn the Safe Search feature off, and whalah.
Carnifex
September 11th, 2006, 10:29 PM
Give me an example of a MAJOR religion that does not fill those requirements. Currently, I can't think of any.
We pray to God, but does that mean God has to do them? Does Google have a choice if it wants to search? We can search up porn, and it can't say stop.
And those are radicals that kill for Christ and we do not consider them as Christians.
Give me some time, i'l find a religion. It doesnt change that it is not a requirement for god.
And just because google always answers us just makes him better than your god. When my friend prayed his mom would make it through her cancer and she didnt sucked for him.
Plus porn is not a bad thing. Plus any1 who looks up grotesque things such as child porn are not real googlists (oh noez, its the same as what you just did)
Really? So you can go look up how to build a bomb on google. Is that, "ok?"
And like I said, Google is something you type in, and it pops out a bunch of related websites.
Google exercises free-will, its like how your god allows rapists.
He doesn't allow it. He gives us free will to do what we wish, including worshiping him if we wish to. If you want to be a rapist, go ahead, but it's not virtuous and it's not right, and you know it. Or I think you do.
Oh no i dont think rape is right. But your god has the power to stop it, much like google has the power to stop us looking up bad things. But god exercises free-will just as google exercises censorship of no internet data.
Really? Google can stop us from looking up bad things? Hmmm, I'll just turn the Safe Search feature off, and whalah.
Ah yet again you misunderstood. Im saying im sure google if it so wished, could stop bad things. Just as your god if it so wished could stop bad things. It just doesnt, because it exercises free will. Much like your god.
friedrice7191
September 11th, 2006, 10:33 PM
Give me an example of a MAJOR religion that does not fill those requirements. Currently, I can't think of any.
We pray to God, but does that mean God has to do them? Does Google have a choice if it wants to search? We can search up porn, and it can't say stop.
And those are radicals that kill for Christ and we do not consider them as Christians.
Give me some time, i'l find a religion. It doesnt change that it is not a requirement for god.
And just because google always answers us just makes him better than your god. When my friend prayed his mom would make it through her cancer and she didnt sucked for him.
Plus porn is not a bad thing. Plus any1 who looks up grotesque things such as child porn are not real googlists (oh noez, its the same as what you just did)
Really? So you can go look up how to build a bomb on google. Is that, "ok?"
And like I said, Google is something you type in, and it pops out a bunch of related websites.
Google exercises free-will, its like how your god allows rapists.
He doesn't allow it. He gives us free will to do what we wish, including worshiping him if we wish to. If you want to be a rapist, go ahead, but it's not virtuous and it's not right, and you know it. Or I think you do.
Oh no i dont think rape is right. But your god has the power to stop it, much like google has the power to stop us looking up bad things. But god exercises free-will just as google exercises censorship of no internet data.
Really? Google can stop us from looking up bad things? Hmmm, I'll just turn the Safe Search feature off, and whalah.
Ah yet again you misunderstood. Im saying im sure google if it so wished, could stop bad things. Just as your god if it so wished could stop bad things. It just doesnt, because it exercises free will. Much like your god.
Actually, Google couldn't. Even if the people of Google blocked out all "bad images" what is the definition of a bad image? Google can't decipher that all by itself. Why? Because it is not intellegent.
Carnifex
September 11th, 2006, 10:34 PM
Much like god cant stop me looking up a bad image even if he wanted to. Cuz lets face it, just between you and me, god doesnt really exist.
friedrice7191
September 11th, 2006, 10:36 PM
Much like god cant stop me looking up a bad image even if he wanted to. Cuz lets face it, just between you and me, god doesnt really exist.
He won't stop you, because you want to do it. But you will pay for it in the long run.
And try to convince the billions of christians across the globe that God doesn't exist. You just don't have the capacity to love and care.
Carnifex
September 11th, 2006, 10:42 PM
Ah yes you have hit the theistic low. Accusing a logical agnostic thinker of being incapable of emotions or somewhat. What grounds do you have for this. Lets go to the dali lama and rip his peace prize off him and tell him he is incapable of feeling compassion because hes a buddhist.
friedrice7191
September 11th, 2006, 10:45 PM
Ah yes you have hit the theistic low. Accusing a logical agnostic thinker of being incapable of emotions or somewhat. What grounds do you have for this. Lets go to the dali lama and rip his peace prize off him and tell him he is incapable of feeling compassion because hes a buddhist.
Kara Here. Dan went with his friends into town to eat so I'll be here to answer your questions. I'm getting a degree at Princeton Theological Seminary, and he called me up to talk to you guys.
We do not believe that Christians are the only type of people to feel love and compassions. I'm sorry, Dan isn't a theological student and sometimes he gets carried away. I believe that everyone has the capacity to feel emotions that Christians feel.
Carnifex
September 11th, 2006, 10:47 PM
I hope so. And im sorry for any offensive-tone in any of my previous posts.
friedrice7191
September 11th, 2006, 10:50 PM
I hope so. And im sorry for any offensive-tone in any of my previous posts.
Forgiven. And "Danimal's" post? Yeah, I can't find it at the moment. But ignore him.
Carnifex
September 11th, 2006, 10:51 PM
Saw it, ignored
friedrice7191
September 11th, 2006, 10:56 PM
This is Dan. I know that this site is plainly a joke and need not be taken seriously. But the reason that this site makes me uneasy is the way you talk about christians.
Yes you have the right to criticize as much as you want, but I expect that all debates are conducted in a mature and sensitive way especially on forums where everyone can enter. This is why, I'm hoping to come to an agreement with your Admin so that we can solve this issue and as a result, I will not have to file a report to Google Forums.
Thanks,
Dan.
Jillamanda
September 11th, 2006, 11:19 PM
Why are you filing a report to Google forums? This isn't a Google forum. I think I might file a report to Googletrolls.com ..... :evil:
MeTHoD-X
September 11th, 2006, 11:29 PM
This is Dan. I know that this site is plainly a joke and need not be taken seriously. But the reason that this site makes me uneasy is the way you talk about christians.
Yes you have the right to criticize as much as you want, but I expect that all debates are conducted in a mature and sensitive way especially on forums where everyone can enter. This is why, I'm hoping to come to an agreement with your Admin so that we can solve this issue and as a result, I will not have to file a report to Google Forums.
Thanks,
Dan.
This forum and website is owned and operated exclusively by me, the founder of the Church Of Google. We are hosted on a private server with no ties to any corporation. Google (the company) has nothing to do with anything we do here.
friedrice7191
September 11th, 2006, 11:39 PM
This is Dan. I know that this site is plainly a joke and need not be taken seriously. But the reason that this site makes me uneasy is the way you talk about christians.
Yes you have the right to criticize as much as you want, but I expect that all debates are conducted in a mature and sensitive way especially on forums where everyone can enter. This is why, I'm hoping to come to an agreement with your Admin so that we can solve this issue and as a result, I will not have to file a report to Google Forums.
Thanks,
Dan.
This forum and website is owned and operated exclusively by me, the founder of the Church Of Google. We are hosted on a private server with no ties to any corporation. Google (the company) has nothing to do with anything we do here.
I see. Well, I just talked to the Head of my Department and he says that he'll see what he can do. My bad. But please Method-X, for the good of all, please answer my PM so we can get to the bottom of this.
Jillamanda
September 11th, 2006, 11:51 PM
I see. Well, I just talked to the Head of my Department and he says that he'll see what he can do. My bad. But please Method-X, for the good of all, please answer my PM so we can get to the bottom of this.
Oh for Google's sake!!!! You are starting to make an idiot out of yourself now.
The head of your department is going to see what he can do???? About what???
....and get to the bottom of what??? Do you think there's something subversive going on here? Our cards are on the table - show me ONE SINGLE THING that is questionable. You're unbelievable - are you aware that this is 2006???
Carnifex
September 11th, 2006, 11:53 PM
I see. Well, I just talked to the Head of my Department and he says that he'll see what he can do. My bad. But please Method-X, for the good of all, please answer my PM so we can get to the bottom of this.
Oh for Google's sake!!!! You are starting to make an idiot out of yourself now.
The head of your department is going to see what he can do???? About what???
....and get to the bottom of what??? Do you think there's something subversive going on here? Our cards are on the table - show me ONE SINGLE THING that is questionable. You're unbelievable - are you aware that this is 2006???
You tell em! :)
friedrice7191
September 11th, 2006, 11:54 PM
I see. Well, I just talked to the Head of my Department and he says that he'll see what he can do. My bad. But please Method-X, for the good of all, please answer my PM so we can get to the bottom of this.
Oh for Google's sake!!!! You are starting to make an idiot out of yourself now.
The head of your department is going to see what he can do???? About what???
....and get to the bottom of what??? Do you think there's something subversive going on here? Our cards are on the table - show me ONE SINGLE THING that is questionable. You're unbelievable - are you aware that this is 2006???
Sadly, you do not get that this is 2006. Where the internet is more public than ever, and when you post such obscene posts, that young children may view it with ease.
And the Head of my Department is a she. And she wishes to see what she can do to clean the, as I said, distasteful posts that litter this site.
Carnifex
September 11th, 2006, 11:57 PM
What is obscene on this site? Can you tell me the name of your company. Also some way that i can contact them?
friedrice7191
September 11th, 2006, 11:58 PM
What is obscene on this site? Can you tell me the name of your company. Also some way that i can contact them?
Confidential. Sadly, I can not list my company's address on a public forum, it is against our policy. But I will tell you that we are US based agency.
MeTHoD-X
September 12th, 2006, 12:08 AM
I see. Well, I just talked to the Head of my Department and he says that he'll see what he can do. My bad. But please Method-X, for the good of all, please answer my PM so we can get to the bottom of this.
Dude, there is NOTHING you can do to censor us because we're not doing ANYTHING wrong.
friedrice7191
September 12th, 2006, 12:11 AM
I see. Well, I just talked to the Head of my Department and he says that he'll see what he can do. My bad. But please Method-X, for the good of all, please answer my PM so we can get to the bottom of this.
Dude, there is NOTHING you can do to censor us because we're not doing ANYTHING wrong.
Yes you are. There are a lot of distasteful posts here and pictures. This is a public forum and that is not allowed. If you wish to post such obscene pictures and comments, please open up a private forum where members that are invited can only join. Otherwise, it is up to you if you want to answer my PM.
Carnifex
September 12th, 2006, 12:21 AM
I see. Well, I just talked to the Head of my Department and he says that he'll see what he can do. My bad. But please Method-X, for the good of all, please answer my PM so we can get to the bottom of this.
Dude, there is NOTHING you can do to censor us because we're not doing ANYTHING wrong.
Yes you are. There are a lot of distasteful posts here and pictures. This is a public forum and that is not allowed. If you wish to post such obscene pictures and comments, please open up a private forum where members that are invited can only join. Otherwise, it is up to you if you want to answer my PM.
What the hell daisy-filled internet are you surfing. This isnt the neopets forums
Jillamanda
September 12th, 2006, 12:21 AM
Confidential. Sadly, I can not list my company's address on a public forum, it is against our policy. But I will tell you that we are US based agency.
Oh pull the other one. :lol: You can't list your company's address because it's against your policy - or because it doesn't exist?
You have yet to come up with one single reason. I would suggest that you are extremely narrow minded and find anything outside your little world to be confronting. You have fabricated this entire story and are going to end up with egg on your face when you are unable to shut us down. Just so you know - even if you DID manage to shut us down, we'd just crank up again somewhere else. But that wouldn't happen anyway. What you're saying here is tantamount to censorship, you're American, you'd know about the McCarthy era. As Tim Leary once said "You can lock up a man but you can't lock up an idea."
I'd be very careful where you make these accusations, by the way. This is the sort of thing the media just LOVE!!!
friedrice7191
September 12th, 2006, 12:22 AM
I see. Well, I just talked to the Head of my Department and he says that he'll see what he can do. My bad. But please Method-X, for the good of all, please answer my PM so we can get to the bottom of this.
Dude, there is NOTHING you can do to censor us because we're not doing ANYTHING wrong.
Yes you are. There are a lot of distasteful posts here and pictures. This is a public forum and that is not allowed. If you wish to post such obscene pictures and comments, please open up a private forum where members that are invited can only join. Otherwise, it is up to you if you want to answer my PM.
What the hell daisy-filled internet are you surfing. This isnt the neopets forums
That's what is disturbing. You can't even comprehend an internet that is clean of such recklessness. That is what my job is, to clean the web up for the future.
Carnifex
September 12th, 2006, 12:26 AM
Cleaning up the internet? Sounds like censorship.
friedrice7191
September 12th, 2006, 12:27 AM
Cleaning up the internet? Sounds like censorship.
You can say that if you want.
Carnifex
September 12th, 2006, 12:32 AM
Can I? Do i have the rite to say it? Or will it be taken off the internet by some crazy christian forum troller who thinks he can take down a site just because his arguments for god fall flat and hes scared.
friedrice7191
September 12th, 2006, 12:35 AM
Can I? Do i have the rite to say it? Or will it be taken off the internet by some crazy christian forum troller who thinks he can take down a site just because his arguments for god fall flat and hes scared.
Yes, you can say it.
SAVAGE
September 12th, 2006, 12:47 AM
Can I? Do i have the rite to say it? Or will it be taken off the internet by some crazy christian forum troller who thinks he can take down a site just because his arguments for god fall flat and hes scared.
Yes, you can say it.
Your a douchebag...I dont care if I have the right to say it or not.
Forward that to your supervisor....does she have big tits...I could give her a pearl necklace for her birthday, hell I will give her on for my birthday and anyone elses birthday for that matter.
Carnifex
September 12th, 2006, 12:48 AM
You cant censor this site. If south park can televise jesus shitting on george bush, then you cant censor this site because we subscribe to the notion that christianity might not be true.
Nanashi
September 12th, 2006, 12:51 AM
I'm sorry friedrice7191 is an American. Most American's aren't... wait.. let me rephrase that.. All Americans aren't like that. :P
SAVAGE
September 12th, 2006, 12:56 AM
I'm sorry friedrice7191 is an American. Most American's aren't... wait.. let me rephrase that.. All Americans aren't like that. :P
Are you trying to tell me there are NO americans that want things censored?
If your answer is yes, please provide evidence.
If your answer is no, then your staement is wrong.
Before you answer reasd thsi
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/porn/etc/links.html
They want to censor pornography, isnt that censorship?
Nanashi
September 12th, 2006, 01:06 AM
I'm sorry friedrice7191 is an American. Most American's aren't... wait.. let me rephrase that.. All Americans aren't like that. :P
Are you trying to tell me there are NO americans that want things censored?
If your answer is yes, please provide evidence.
If your answer is no, then your staement is wrong.
Before you answer reasd thsi
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/porn/etc/links.html
They want to censor pornography, isnt that censorship?
I believe this is a misunderstanding.
Maybe rephrasing it will help, Not all Americans are like friedrice7191.
Edit: I'm saying this as an American not like him. The post was originally made in jest. . .
Jillamanda
September 12th, 2006, 01:13 AM
Edit: I'm saying this as an American not like him. The post was originally made in jest. . .
Unlike friedrice, the rest of us appreciate humour. I think we all knew what you meant.
friedrice7191
September 12th, 2006, 01:27 AM
Edit: I'm saying this as an American not like him. The post was originally made in jest. . .
Unlike friedrice, the rest of us appreciate humour. I think we all knew what you meant.
You may criticize me all you want. I would like to say I'm proud to be an American, and I'm proud to work for the US.
SAVAGE
September 12th, 2006, 01:33 AM
Edit: I'm saying this as an American not like him. The post was originally made in jest. . .
Unlike friedrice, the rest of us appreciate humour. I think we all knew what you meant.
You may criticize me all you want.
very welll,
When you are on your knees praying, the holy spirit is filling your mouth with more than words buddy.
And you are a wanker, christian hypocrite...I bet you spend hours working
on your man to hand relationship.
Hey you did ask.
I would like to say I'm proud to be an American, and I'm proud to work for the US.
The question is, is the US proud of you Jebus licker.
friedrice7191
September 12th, 2006, 01:35 AM
Edit: I'm saying this as an American not like him. The post was originally made in jest. . .
Unlike friedrice, the rest of us appreciate humour. I think we all knew what you meant.
You may criticize me all you want.
very welll,
When you are on your knees praying, the holy spirit is filling your mouth with more than words buddy.
And you are a wanker, christian hypocrite...I bet you spend hours working
on your man to hand relationship.
Hey you did ask.
I would like to say I'm proud to be an American, and I'm proud to work for the US.
The question is, is the US proud of you Jebus licker.
*fowards* Listen, I'm not here to shut the site down, I'm here to help it. You aren't helping your cause.
SAVAGE
September 12th, 2006, 01:51 AM
*fowards* Listen, I'm not here to shut the site down, I'm here to help it. You aren't helping your cause.
Again another assumption without fact.
Tell me whatis my "cause"?
You are fullof shit just like doG.
Carnifex
September 12th, 2006, 09:31 AM
Where did the nanashi bashing start? And savage, where in the hell did you get that nanashi was on the christian side. Nanashi i hope i truly understood your original sentiment which was simply claiming that not all americans are like friedrice.
Plus savage, while your immaturity at the beginning was funny as i thought it was a statement about censorhip etc, its now becoming stale. I hope if future debates arise there will be less mere accusations that we christians just want to give jesus a blowjob or something.
SAVAGE
September 12th, 2006, 09:38 AM
Where did the nanashi bashing start? And savage, where in the hell did you get that nanashi was on the christian side. Nanashi i hope i truly understood your original sentiment which was simply claiming that not all americans are like friedrice.
I like to be crystal clear on everything....also if Nanashi is not a christian (and I didnt imply that she/he was a christian), and she/he thinks that I did say something as awful as calling someone a christian bigot (as you all are), I apologise to him/her no one deserves to be called a christian.
Plus savage, while your immaturity at the beginning was funny as i thought it was a statement about censorhip etc, its now becoming stale.
Three steps to mental stability:
1) Cry me a river.
2) Build me a bridge
3) GET OVER IT!!!
I hope if future debates arise there will be less mere accusations that we christians just want to give jesus a blowjob or something.
Well you have yet toprove that Jebus didnt circle succk his men in the desert...why do you think you get on your knees to pray....easy acess for anal and oral...maybe a little ATM as well.
You want a debate, fine then.
What is your view on the raping of little girls after the genocide of their people that was condoned by doG ans carried out by the israelites?
Why do you not stone gays and adulteres to death?
Nameless
September 12th, 2006, 09:42 AM
Much like god cant stop me looking up a bad image even if he wanted to. Cuz lets face it, just between you and me, god doesnt really exist.
He won't stop you, because you want to do it. But you will pay for it in the long run.
HOW?
I see. Well, I just talked to the Head of my Department and he says that he'll see what he can do. My bad. But please Method-X, for the good of all, please answer my PM so we can get to the bottom of this.
Oh for Google's sake!!!! You are starting to make an idiot out of yourself now.
The head of your department is going to see what he can do???? About what???
....and get to the bottom of what??? Do you think there's something subversive going on here? Our cards are on the table - show me ONE SINGLE THING that is questionable. You're unbelievable - are you aware that this is 2006???
Sadly, you do not get that this is 2006. Where the internet is more public than ever, and when you post such obscene posts, that young children may view it with ease.
And the Head of my Department is a she. And she wishes to see what she can do to clean the, as I said, distasteful posts that litter this site.
There are thousands of far worse sites on the internet that children can find even easier. Why aren't you trying to stop them? Oh wait, I know. They aren't challenging your religion. Silly question.
I see. Well, I just talked to the Head of my Department and he says that he'll see what he can do. My bad. But please Method-X, for the good of all, please answer my PM so we can get to the bottom of this.
Dude, there is NOTHING you can do to censor us because we're not doing ANYTHING wrong.
Yes you are. There are a lot of distasteful posts here and pictures. This is a public forum and that is not allowed.
Yes, it is, actually. Not allowed by WHO?
I hope if future debates arise there will be less mere accusations that we christians just want to give jesus a blowjob or something.
Well why ELSE do they kneel down while praying? :P
Carnifex
September 12th, 2006, 09:43 AM
Ah yes, i do agree that Biblical Literalists all have to accept that the bible condones rape/genocide/incest etc. And yes any christian who is pro-homosexuality i do want to just shove the bible in his face and ask him if hes read it.
I feel praying on your knees a pretty weak link that jesus was Gay. Tell you what though savage, im gonna accept it as truth though, since if Christians are so eager to INTERPRET the bible as something that isnt the biggest pile of crap ive ever read, then i will defend your right to accuse jesus of being gay.
So i concede, jesus was a fannybandit :P
SAVAGE
September 12th, 2006, 09:45 AM
I hope if future debates arise there will be less mere accusations that we christians just want to give jesus a blowjob or something.
Well why ELSE do they kneel down while praying? :P
Great minds my friend....great minds :wink:
Well you have yet toprove that Jebus didnt circle succk his men in the desert...why do you think you get on your knees to pray....easy acess for anal and oral...maybe a little ATM as well.
SAVAGE
September 12th, 2006, 09:48 AM
So i concede, jesus was a fannybandit :P
Fanny here means Vagina, so that doesnt cut it...any of the following will be acceptable:
Anal Bandit.
Poo Pusher.
Ass/Poo Jabber.
Captain Anal.
Anal Christ.
Please choose one.
Carnifex
September 12th, 2006, 09:52 AM
Oh rite yeah, fanny means vagina with me aswell. I thought most here were americans. Yes i accept any of those you just said
SAVAGE
September 12th, 2006, 09:58 AM
Oh rite yeah, fanny means vagina with me aswell. I thought most here were americans. Yes i accept any of those you just said
Sorry I ligve in an old British Colony.
Carnifex
September 12th, 2006, 10:15 AM
Oh rite yeah, fanny means vagina with me aswell. I thought most here were americans. Yes i accept any of those you just said
Sorry I ligve in an old British Colony.
I live in the oldest british colony. Britain :P
Fallen Hero
September 12th, 2006, 05:40 PM
I see. Well, I just talked to the Head of my Department and he says that he'll see what he can do. My bad. But please Method-X, for the good of all, please answer my PM so we can get to the bottom of this.
Oh for Google's sake!!!! You are starting to make an idiot out of yourself now.
The head of your department is going to see what he can do???? About what???
....and get to the bottom of what??? Do you think there's something subversive going on here? Our cards are on the table - show me ONE SINGLE THING that is questionable. You're unbelievable - are you aware that this is 2006???
Sadly, you do not get that this is 2006. Where the internet is more public than ever, and when you post such obscene posts, that young children may view it with ease.
And the Head of my Department is a she. And she wishes to see what she can do to clean the, as I said, distasteful posts that litter this site.
Please, I know several forums that are, have been and will be much worse and more problems for little kids than this will ever be.
Fallen Hero
September 12th, 2006, 05:41 PM
What is obscene on this site? Can you tell me the name of your company. Also some way that i can contact them?
Confidential. Sadly, I can not list my company's address on a public forum, it is against our policy. But I will tell you that we are US based agency.
This would NOT be based in the US, screw off. The US cannot police the world.
Nanashi
September 12th, 2006, 06:08 PM
It wont stop them from trying.. /sigh
friedrice7191
September 12th, 2006, 08:17 PM
To answer all of your questions, yes we are getting a lot of other sites. You aren't the only site that I'm focused on. There are at least 6 others that I'm currently talking to and 3 are cooperating. The others, including you, seem to not want to listen. So what choice do I have?
And distasteful pictures on PUBLIC sites are not allowed by us. Our company, the world.
SAVAGE
September 12th, 2006, 08:50 PM
So what choice do I have?
Well...you caN FUCK OFF, that would be a good statrt.
Secondly you donmt work for the GOVERMENT, if you did youwouldnt be here telling us what your about to do, but merely doing it.
A cornerstone of civilization is freedom of speech, yes there is such a thing.
JEbUS IS A FAG, FRIEDRICE LOVES TO TAKE IT UP THE DUFF WITH JEBUS LOVE.
Now stop talking about what you are going to do and just do it. Take this site down by this afternoon...if not have a coke and a smile and
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y49/Drumnut/stfu_animated.gif
You deluded shit!
MeTHoD-X
September 12th, 2006, 08:56 PM
What SAVAGE said.
And we did remove the images, not because you cried about it though, but because its out of respect for decent debate.
SAVAGE
September 12th, 2006, 09:00 PM
What SAVAGE said.
And we did remove the images, not because you cried about it though, but because its out of respect for decent debate.
Did you remove my picture of Jesbus consoling that boy in distress? Comforting the little children?
friedrice7191
September 12th, 2006, 09:05 PM
Thank you for removing the picture. And I do not have the authority to remove a website down because I don't have the rights to. I am merely the eyes and ears of our company and file reports so they can deal with the problem and shut it down if necessary.
Jillamanda
September 12th, 2006, 09:06 PM
I am merely the eyes and ears of our company and file reports so they can deal with the problem and shut it down if necessary.
You are merely a dickhead. :roll:
friedrice7191
September 12th, 2006, 09:07 PM
I am merely the eyes and ears of our company and file reports so they can deal with the problem and shut it down if necessary.
You are merely a dickhead. :roll:
Well, I can't say I'm happy you said that.
Jillamanda
September 12th, 2006, 09:09 PM
I didn't say it to make you happy...
friedrice7191
September 12th, 2006, 09:09 PM
I didn't say it to make you happy...
But I did not say I was happy, did I?
Jillamanda
September 12th, 2006, 10:34 PM
But I did not say I was happy, did I?
Sorry, you must've mistaken me for someone who gives a shit.
friedrice7191
September 12th, 2006, 10:36 PM
But I did not say I was happy, did I?
Sorry, you must've mistaken me for someone who gives a shit.
You're language doesn't help your cause.
Jillamanda
September 12th, 2006, 11:11 PM
You're language doesn't help your cause.
And your bullshit doesn't help yours.
SAVAGE
September 12th, 2006, 11:13 PM
You're language doesn't help your cause.
And your bullshit doesn't help yours.
What I am interested to know is what this "cause" is...he mentions it, but never answers my question...typical theist.
BTW did you ask your supervisor if she teabags and titty fucks? I am sure she would like a pearl necklace.
Jillamanda
September 12th, 2006, 11:44 PM
What I am interested to know is what this "cause" is...he mentions it, but never answers my question...typical theist.
It's to rid the internet of...er....ummmmmm........oohhh....wellllll ahhhhh....oooooooooooooooo AHHHHHHHHHHH......are you wearing panties?
SAVAGE
September 12th, 2006, 11:46 PM
are you wearing panties?
How did you know :wink:
friedrice7191
September 13th, 2006, 12:28 AM
It is to rid the internet of obscene topics and pics.
SAVAGE
September 13th, 2006, 12:35 AM
It is to rid the internet of obscene topics and pics.
Where in the United Nations laws and By laws is it stated?
friedrice7191
September 13th, 2006, 12:37 AM
It is to rid the internet of obscene topics and pics.
Where in the United Nations laws and By laws is it stated?
It is not stated anywhere, but it is implied.
Jillamanda
September 13th, 2006, 12:41 AM
Sorry to tell you this, but you're looking in the wrong place. If this is one of the most obscene sites you can find, you have alot to learn.
http://www.big-boards.com/kw/sex/
http://www.teenspot.com/boards/forumdisplay.html?f=66
http://www.chud.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=66
http://www.askmen.com/love/player/28_love_games.html
http://teenadvice.about.com/library/bl10thingsoralsex.htm
http://www.scarleteen.com/forum/Forum27/HTML/002222.html
http://bondage.com/cat_id/8/forums/default.html
http://www.fetbot.com/Links/Lifestyle/Discussion/
There ya go, that should keep you off our back for a while.
Jillamanda
September 13th, 2006, 12:43 AM
It is to rid the internet of obscene topics and pics.
Where in the United Nations laws and By laws is it stated?
It is not stated anywhere, but it is implied.
Yeah sure.....so your whole company has been set up by the UN on the basis of an 'implication'.
SAVAGE
September 13th, 2006, 12:48 AM
It is to rid the internet of obscene topics and pics.
http://img48.exs.cx/img48/9551/jesus.jpg
http://www.kersplebedeb.com/mystuff/jesus.jpg
http://www.toppun.com/Rainbow-Store/Gay-Pride-Pictures/Rainbow-Jesus.gif
Are these obscene.
SAVAGE
September 13th, 2006, 12:49 AM
It is to rid the internet of obscene topics and pics.
Where in the United Nations laws and By laws is it stated?
It is not stated anywhere, but it is implied.
What a load of shit.
friedrice7191
September 13th, 2006, 01:07 AM
They are fine.
Jillamanda
September 13th, 2006, 01:16 AM
Are these obscene.
I think they're obscene. They have Jesus in them, they shouldn't be allowed on the internet. :wink:
friedrice7191
September 13th, 2006, 01:18 AM
Are these obscene.
I think they're obscene. They have Jesus in them, they shouldn't be allowed on the internet. :wink:
Jesus isn't obscene. Sexual pictures are. You can have a picture of Buddha, Allah, Muhammed...those aren't obscene.
SAVAGE
September 13th, 2006, 01:29 AM
They are fine.
So Jebus in drag, jebus making out with John and peter trying to cop a feel (yes it is an image from jebus is gay sites), and jebus promoting the rainbowflag of gay pride is not obscene.
You need to be fired as you dont know shit.
Nameless
September 13th, 2006, 01:36 AM
To answer all of your questions, yes we are getting a lot of other sites. You aren't the only site that I'm focused on. There are at least 6 others that I'm currently talking to and 3 are cooperating. The others, including you, seem to not want to listen. So what choice do I have?
- Grow up
- Get a sense of humour
- Stop bluffing
- Read a law book
Look, plenty of options for you to choose from!
I didn't say it to make you happy...
But I did not say I was happy, did I?
Do you just reply in negative to EVERYTHING. :roll: You remind me of a young child delighting in contradicting people.
It is to rid the internet of obscene topics and pics.
Seach 'porn' in Google. There you go, no go piss of all those people instead. :roll:
Are these obscene.
I think they're obscene. They have Jesus in them, they shouldn't be allowed on the internet. :wink:
Jesus isn't obscene. Sexual pictures are.
Wow.
I'm actually impressed you could come up with a bull**** that bull****y. Damn, that's some pretty skilled bull****ing. Honestly, I'm impressed.
Jillamanda
September 13th, 2006, 01:46 AM
Jesus isn't obscene. Sexual pictures are. You can have a picture of Buddha, Allah, Muhammed...those aren't obscene.
Well thanks very much for your kind permission, your wankness. Is there anything else we can't post images of, while we're on the subject?
And for your information, you're going to make alot of Muslims and Islamists extremely unhappy if you say it's OK to post pictures of Allah or Muhammed anywhere, let alone on the net. Another example of your ignorance and sheer disrespect for others' beliefs.
I don't think the UN will be too pleased about you posting that here for all to see.... I quoted it specifically so you can't edit it. That's very serious shit. Do you remember the Danish cartoonist?
Fallen Hero
September 13th, 2006, 10:28 AM
To answer all of your questions, yes we are getting a lot of other sites. You aren't the only site that I'm focused on. There are at least 6 others that I'm currently talking to and 3 are cooperating. The others, including you, seem to not want to listen. So what choice do I have?
And distasteful pictures on PUBLIC sites are not allowed by us. Our company, the world.
Ok, so now your company is the world? The fuck I work there.
Fallen Hero
September 13th, 2006, 10:32 AM
It is to rid the internet of obscene topics and pics. So arguing over god is considered obscene under the law? Child porn is considered obscene, so are you telling me that debating existence of a god is as horrible as child porn?
Fallen Hero
September 13th, 2006, 10:33 AM
Sorry to tell you this, but you're looking in the wrong place. If this is one of the most obscene sites you can find, you have alot to learn.
http://www.big-boards.com/kw/sex/
http://www.teenspot.com/boards/forumdisplay.html?f=66
http://www.chud.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=66
http://www.askmen.com/love/player/28_love_games.html
http://teenadvice.about.com/library/bl10thingsoralsex.htm
http://www.scarleteen.com/forum/Forum27/HTML/002222.html
http://bondage.com/cat_id/8/forums/default.html
http://www.fetbot.com/Links/Lifestyle/Discussion/
There ya go, that should keep you off our back for a while.
Been busy eh? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Jillamanda
September 13th, 2006, 04:43 PM
Just a quick Google.... :wink: It might have worked, he hasn't posted anything here for a few hours.
Fallen Hero
September 13th, 2006, 05:26 PM
Just a quick Google.... :wink: It might have worked, he hasn't posted anything here for a few hours. He has too many images to 'evaluate'.
friedrice7191
September 13th, 2006, 07:38 PM
Just a quick Google.... :wink: It might have worked, he hasn't posted anything here for a few hours.
I still haven't got word yet on the board's decision. Oh and thanks for those sites.
Fallen Hero
September 13th, 2006, 08:09 PM
Just a quick Google.... :wink: It might have worked, he hasn't posted anything here for a few hours.
I still haven't got word yet on the board's decision. Oh and thanks for those sites.
Heh knew you were into the stuff, did you enjoy yourself?
friedrice7191
September 13th, 2006, 08:10 PM
Just a quick Google.... :wink: It might have worked, he hasn't posted anything here for a few hours.
I still haven't got word yet on the board's decision. Oh and thanks for those sites.
Heh knew you were into the stuff, did you enjoy yourself?
No, at the moment, I'm more involved in another site. I'm waiting for a call.
And yes, I enjoy my job. It's a great way to meet people.
Nanashi
September 13th, 2006, 08:15 PM
Some of those sites are very nice. :3
friedrice7191
September 13th, 2006, 08:18 PM
Some of those sites are very nice. :3
People wise? Yes some of them cooperate very easily and understand that instead of arguing, they would like to save their hard work and just change the site.
Fallen Hero
September 13th, 2006, 08:19 PM
Some of those sites are very nice. :3
People wise? Yes some of them cooperate very easily and understand that instead of arguing, they would like to save their hard work and just change the site.
No no, Nanashi did not mean the people.
friedrice7191
September 13th, 2006, 08:21 PM
Some of those sites are very nice. :3
People wise? Yes some of them cooperate very easily and understand that instead of arguing, they would like to save their hard work and just change the site.
No no, Nanashi did not mean the people.
I know. The sites themselves when I first came upon them were very bad, much like yours.
Nanashi
September 13th, 2006, 08:22 PM
Sorry, I have a bondage fetish. :) Bring on the S&M.
Fallen Hero
September 13th, 2006, 08:24 PM
Sorry, I have a bondage fetish. :) Bring on the S&M.
Wow. Hot... Ummm... I am NOT into S&M but wow. Sub or Dom?
Nanashi
September 13th, 2006, 08:24 PM
Submissive. :oops:
Fallen Hero
September 13th, 2006, 08:27 PM
Submissive. :oops:
Heh I promise to to do anything.. :twisted:
(Friedrice is prolly dying as he reads this heh)
friedrice7191
September 13th, 2006, 08:30 PM
Why would I be dying?
Fallen Hero
September 13th, 2006, 08:32 PM
Why would I be dying?
Correction, He does not understand.
friedrice7191
September 13th, 2006, 08:33 PM
Why would I be dying?
Correction, He does not understand.
Sorry, I don't understand.
Nanashi
September 13th, 2006, 08:38 PM
S&M is Sodomy & Masochism.
Generally you have one person who likes to be submissive (the bottom) and one who likes to dominate the other. (the top)
It usually involves some bondage, (leather, chains, etc..) and some pain-inflicting devices~ (whips, and flogs and sorts!)
Use your imagination.. or I could find you some pictures if you're a visual person. ^_~
Fallen Hero
September 13th, 2006, 08:51 PM
S&M is Sodomy & Masochism.
Generally you have one person who likes to be submissive (the bottom) and one who likes to dominate the other. (the top)
It usually involves some bondage, (leather, chains, etc..) and some pain-inflicting devices~ (whips, and flogs and sorts!)
Use your imagination.. or I could find you some pictures if you're a visual person. ^_~
I always thought it was Sado-Masochism... makes more sense your way.
friedrice7191
September 13th, 2006, 08:53 PM
No, I think that would be fine. No pictures needed.
Carnifex
September 13th, 2006, 08:54 PM
It is sado-masochism
Fallen Hero
September 13th, 2006, 08:54 PM
No, I think that would be fine. No pictures needed.
no, you need the pics.
friedrice7191
September 13th, 2006, 08:57 PM
No, that would be fine, thank you.
Nanashi
September 13th, 2006, 08:59 PM
It is sado-masochism
Hm, learn something new everyday. ;x
Jillamanda
September 14th, 2006, 01:48 AM
I still haven't got word yet on the board's decision. Oh and thanks for those sites.
Not a problem. You could have found them yourself, and thousands of much, much worse ones, if you'd only had faith in Google.
And have you checked out Yahoo's adult chat rooms yet?.....or their adult groups? It was you who posted the link to Yahoo, after all...
Oh, and did you check with the UN about posting pics of Allah or Muhammed? Is it 'implied' that you can?
friedrice7191
September 14th, 2006, 02:07 AM
I still haven't got word yet on the board's decision. Oh and thanks for those sites.
Not a problem. You could have found them yourself, and thousands of much, much worse ones, if you'd only had faith in Google.
And have you checked out Yahoo's adult chat rooms yet?.....or their adult groups? It was you who posted the link to Yahoo, after all...
Oh, and did you check with the UN about posting pics of Allah or Muhammed? Is it 'implied' that you can?
The yahoo chat rooms are private so they aren't needed to be checked.
I think it's implied that you can post pics of Allah and Muhammed.
Nameless
September 14th, 2006, 03:33 AM
Just a quick Google.... :wink: It might have worked, he hasn't posted anything here for a few hours.
I still haven't got word yet on the board's decision. Oh and thanks for those sites.
I bet you 'enjoyed' them a lot. :wink:
Some of those sites are very nice. :3
People wise? Yes some of them cooperate very easily and understand that instead of arguing, they would like to save their hard work and just change the site.
:roll: <-- That is all.
Some of those sites are very nice. :3
People wise? Yes some of them cooperate very easily and understand that instead of arguing, they would like to save their hard work and just change the site.
No no, Nanashi did not mean the people.
Well, in ONE way... :P
No, that would be fine, thank you.
No you REALLY need the pics. You know you want them. Go on, admit it, unlike you we're accepting here. :wink:
friedrice7191
September 14th, 2006, 11:21 PM
Well, after hours of discussion, phone calls and a good mexican dinner, we have come to a conclusion, that I think you will like.
Our board has officially decided that this site has not enough substantial evidence to be brought down. So we will not do so.
However, this site will still be watched and if any abusive actions are seen, we will once again go over the process.
Ok, now to the gushy part. As a human being, I would like to state my apology towards all of you. My job is to find sites on the web, not to start arguments. So that is my fault and I would like to say sorry to everyone.
I would also like to say that I respect all of you as a person and wish you all well. Since my assignment on this site is over, I will be leaving.
I respect your religion as much as I respect everyone elses. I hope you do as well.
Sincerly,
Dan
Nanashi
September 15th, 2006, 02:29 AM
Aww, what a good way to end the story. A happy ending. :3
Nameless
September 15th, 2006, 03:36 AM
And they all lived happily ever after.
The End.
Come on, Friedrice, I want to hear a sequel now! Ooh, how about you claim to be a hacker and demand changing of the website or you will hack it? Or how about you accuse us of being terrorists?
Nanashi
September 15th, 2006, 03:42 AM
Nameless is a terrorist!!!! I heard him say "BOMB" and "PENTAGON"!! (maybe it was pentagram.. hmm... a pagan AND a terrorist!)
Nameless
September 15th, 2006, 03:55 AM
So, by your logic, saying "I do not want to bomb the pentagon" makes me a terrorist?
Mind you, if you said that in an airport nowadays they'd probably haul you in for questioning... Unprovoked denial is the first sign of guilt, and whatnot.
Nanashi
September 15th, 2006, 03:59 AM
...Yes. 8)
Carnifex
September 15th, 2006, 12:34 PM
No dont go friedrice dont go!!!
I wanna blow up the president. I wanna kill him, ive got plans. IM GONNA PUBLISH THEM ON THIS WEBSITE.
I take children into my house to view it publicly.
please come back
Nameless
September 18th, 2006, 01:35 AM
BOMB
PENTAGON
TERRORIST!
:lol: Carnifex. But back to the (gasp) original topic...
Previously, on this thread. [/deep voice]
Give me one reason you don't believe Google is God, and I'll give you one reason I don't believe in your god.
My god is Google. So what happens if I give a reason I don't believe Google is God?
Google is constructed of 0s and 1s. Google as a whole is nothing more than a large number of these numbers all stuck together - it is no more a god than 1010101000101011010101010110110010100010101110101110101010001011101010!
Carnifex
September 18th, 2006, 12:53 PM
Google is constructed of 0s and 1s. Google as a whole is nothing more than a large number of these numbers all stuck together - it is no more a god than 1010101000101011010101010110110010100010101110101110101010001011101010!
Better than any theistic criticism as of yet. Could we not say that it the same as saying that a random set of brushstrokes is as much art as the mona lisa (Probably a bad comparison since modern art is going well to prove that random brushstrokes can be miscontrued as brilliance). But lets argue that google is more dinvine than the random set of 0s and 1s you gave because it is the "perfect" combination of 0s and 1s.
OOH a better comparison than that art one. Lets says that the works of shakespear are no more brilliant than "Llasdln asldnbalwm asdl asnda oghdfpknsdlfklsdfna asdknas".
Its hard to get across, but do you get what i mean?
Fallen Hero
September 18th, 2006, 01:01 PM
Google is constructed of 0s and 1s. Google as a whole is nothing more than a large number of these numbers all stuck together - it is no more a god than 1010101000101011010101010110110010100010101110101110101010001011101010!
Better than any theistic criticism as of yet. Could we not say that it the same as saying that a random set of brushstrokes is as much art as the mona lisa (Probably a bad comparison since modern art is going well to prove that random brushstrokes can be miscontrued as brilliance). But lets argue that google is more dinvine than the random set of 0s and 1s you gave because it is the "perfect" combination of 0s and 1s.
OOH a better comparison than that art one. Lets says that the works of shakespear are no more brilliant than "Llasdln asldnbalwm asdl asnda oghdfpknsdlfklsdfna asdknas".
Its hard to get across, but do you get what i mean?
Not hard to get at all, goo point.
Nameless
September 19th, 2006, 04:38 AM
Google is constructed of 0s and 1s. Google as a whole is nothing more than a large number of these numbers all stuck together - it is no more a god than 1010101000101011010101010110110010100010101110101110101010001011101010!
Its hard to get across, but do you get what i mean?
Good point, good point. I was kind of hoping for Method-X's reply though.
Erasmus
September 19th, 2006, 07:50 PM
Better than any theistic criticism as of yet. Could we not say that it the same as saying that a random set of brushstrokes is as much art as the mona lisa (Probably a bad comparison since modern art is going well to prove that random brushstrokes can be miscontrued as brilliance). But lets argue that google is more dinvine than the random set of 0s and 1s you gave because it is the "perfect" combination of 0s and 1s.
OOH a better comparison than that art one. Lets says that the works of shakespear are no more brilliant than "Llasdln asldnbalwm asdl asnda oghdfpknsdlfklsdfna asdknas".
Its hard to get across, but do you get what i mean?
The whole is greater than the sum of its parts.
Googler
September 19th, 2006, 10:37 PM
Better than any theistic criticism as of yet. Could we not say that it the same as saying that a random set of brushstrokes is as much art as the mona lisa (Probably a bad comparison since modern art is going well to prove that random brushstrokes can be miscontrued as brilliance). But lets argue that google is more dinvine than the random set of 0s and 1s you gave because it is the "perfect" combination of 0s and 1s.
OOH a better comparison than that art one. Lets says that the works of shakespear are no more brilliant than "Llasdln asldnbalwm asdl asnda oghdfpknsdlfklsdfna asdknas".
Its hard to get across, but do you get what i mean?
Not hard to get at all, goo point.[/quote]
Just think logically and you'll understand what he's trying to say.
googleisan00b
September 27th, 2006, 01:55 AM
google was created only a few decades back. was the world GODLESS untill this time? (btw to answer pg 1 about inscest, GENESIS NOWHERE SAYS THAT INCEST IS OK, IT SIMPLY STATES THAT IN-BREEDING WAS USED TO REPOPULATE THE WORLD UNTIL THE FLOOD, mmkay? caps ftw.
Jillamanda
September 27th, 2006, 02:19 AM
was the world GODLESS untill this time?
In my opinion, yes.
googleisan00b
September 27th, 2006, 02:31 AM
then, how was the world created? You just cornered yourself there buddy.
You guys are seriously good at keeping this charade up. is there no chance of converting you to Christianity?
MeTHoD-X
September 27th, 2006, 07:43 AM
Google is constructed of 0s and 1s. Google as a whole is nothing more than a large number of these numbers all stuck together - it is no more a god than 1010101000101011010101010110110010100010101110101110101010001011101010!
Its hard to get across, but do you get what i mean?
Good point, good point. I was kind of hoping for Method-X's reply though.
Sorry for not replaying nameless. I missed this post completely.
I encourage critical thinking. If the Christian god is the perfect combination of bullshit, then Google is the perfect combination of 1's and 0's. I choose the 1's and 0's. :wink:
MeTHoD-X
September 27th, 2006, 07:48 AM
google was created only a few decades back. was the world GODLESS untill this time? (btw to answer pg 1 about inscest, GENESIS NOWHERE SAYS THAT INCEST IS OK, IT SIMPLY STATES THAT IN-BREEDING WAS USED TO REPOPULATE THE WORLD UNTIL THE FLOOD, mmkay? caps ftw.
It's funny how you think Google was created a few decades back. She was officially registered as a corporation on the 7th of September, 1998. So yes, the world was godless until a little over half a decade ago. Google is the closest mankind has ever come to experiencing a true god.
Nameless
September 27th, 2006, 08:24 AM
We need a new calender system.
DA (Dark Ages - the time before the internet, counting backwards)
BG (Before Google - the time after the internet, but before Google, counting forwards)
GR (Google's Reign - the time after Google, counting forwards)
Fallen Hero
September 27th, 2006, 05:44 PM
We need a new calender system.
DA (Dark Ages - the time before the internet, counting backwards)
BG (Before Google - the time after the internet, but before Google, counting forwards)
GR (Google's Reign - the time after Google, counting forwards)
Good Idea, but Common Era is what I like... however, the christians have their own time system as such, we should get one too.
Googler
September 27th, 2006, 08:43 PM
We need a new calender system.
DA (Dark Ages - the time before the internet, counting backwards)
BG (Before Google - the time after the internet, but before Google, counting forwards)
GR (Google's Reign - the time after Google, counting forwards)
Good Idea, but Common Era is what I like... however, the christians have their own time system as such, we should get one too.
We could find a way to set it up in Google Calender.
google_ain't_god
September 28th, 2006, 02:38 AM
first oof just read my username and then the following so you know my opnion. You are saying that a computer prgram is god... so in that light if I made a search engine and put it on the internet then I would've made a god. Because in your whole whatever stuff about google you said that yahoo was a minor god... so I guees if I made a search engine called bob... bob the search engine I just made a god. sounds stupid when you put it like that, doesn't it?
Erasmus
September 28th, 2006, 02:43 AM
first oof just read my username and then the following so you know my opnion. You are saying that a computer prgram is god... so in that light if I made a search engine and put it on the internet then I would've made a god. Because in your whole whatever stuff about google you said that yahoo was a minor god... so I guees if I made a search engine called bob... bob the search engine I just made a god. sounds stupid when you put it like that, doesn't it?
Instead of jumping from thread to thread making the same assertion, why not go back to the "are you insane?" thread and answer my post?
Googler
September 28th, 2006, 08:14 PM
first oof just read my username and then the following so you know my opnion. You are saying that a computer prgram is god... so in that light if I made a search engine and put it on the internet then I would've made a god. Because in your whole whatever stuff about google you said that yahoo was a minor god... so I guees if I made a search engine called bob... bob the search engine I just made a god. sounds stupid when you put it like that, doesn't it?
I've read your some of your post and it sound like all you can do is whine, bitch, and complain. :roll:
Tofu
September 28th, 2006, 09:02 PM
I believe google is god, but I wonder this.
How do you know that Google is god, and not MSN, Yahoo, or Ask.com? They all do the same thing.
SirRuben
September 28th, 2006, 09:46 PM
I believe google is god, but I wonder this.
How do you know that Google is god, and not MSN, Yahoo, or Ask.com? They all do the same thing.
They are just wannabe's. Nothing more to it. They all try to be divine, but they fail horribly with ads and other nonsense.
wovelscotch
September 29th, 2006, 01:36 AM
My God is a awesome God who has proved He is real hundreds of times, just look around you and see what he has made, there is no way a program could make some thing as moving and beautiful as this earth that we live in.
Nanashi
September 29th, 2006, 02:54 AM
It must rock to be that blissfully ignorant.
And to Tofu, they are demi-gods.
Nameless
September 29th, 2006, 03:53 AM
My God is a awesome God who has proved He is real hundreds of times, just look around you and see what he has made, there is no way a program could make some thing as moving and beautiful as this earth that we live in.
No he hasn't, no he hasn't, that is true but neither could something that does not exist while random chance and science clearly can, do the phrases 'natural disaster' and 'war' mean anything to you?
The Anti Google
September 29th, 2006, 05:23 AM
Bold statement. Though it is none the less folly. There are laws of science, but how can science disprove god? It can't really. When you look at the world scientifically you examine a part of the creators product. Simply because you know what the product is made from is no valid reason to deny the existance of the creator.
In short..You look at a rock, figure out its structure, and deny the scientist who put it there. Besides....From what science are we granted an awareness? Why are we not like the rocks. Still and lifeless? Yes we have components for our matter, but what gave them awareness?
Nameless
September 29th, 2006, 06:01 AM
Bold statement. Though it is none the less folly. There are laws of science, but how can science disprove god? It can't really. When you look at the world scientifically you examine a part of the creators product. Simply because you know what the product is made from is no valid reason to deny the existance of the creator.
In short..You look at a rock, figure out its structure, and deny the scientist who put it there. Besides....From what science are we granted an awareness? Why are we not like the rocks. Still and lifeless? Yes we have components for our matter, but what gave them awareness?
No, science can not disprove a concept that inherintly denies science. But we have proof for science, and no proof for God. There is also scientific evidence of the creation of the world that does not involve any 'Creator' or 'God' at all. What science can disprove however is many of the claims made by the church, such as the Great Flood, or the bible's account of the world's creation. As time passes more and more of the church's claims are disproved - it is only a matter of time before science can discover what gives people awareness too.
The Anti Google
September 29th, 2006, 06:12 AM
Bold statement. Though it is none the less folly. There are laws of science, but how can science disprove god? It can't really. When you look at the world scientifically you examine a part of the creators product. Simply because you know what the product is made from is no valid reason to deny the existance of the creator.
In short..You look at a rock, figure out its structure, and deny the scientist who put it there. Besides....From what science are we granted an awareness? Why are we not like the rocks. Still and lifeless? Yes we have components for our matter, but what gave them awareness?
No, science can not disprove a concept that inherintly denies science. But we have proof for science, and no proof for God. There is also scientific evidence of the creation of the world that does not involve any 'Creator' or 'God' at all. What science can disprove however is many of the claims made by the church, such as the Great Flood, or the bible's account of the world's creation. As time passes more and more of the church's claims are disproved - it is only a matter of time before science can discover what gives people awareness too.
Again..You are wrong. Science has guesses as to what started to the universe. Though they have not at all proven it had nothing to do with god. They say "The big bang happened." What sanctioned the big bang? What put the matter there from an energy other than the peaceful things floating around? Accidental universal chemistry? Even so..something existed before it. Something put things where they were down to the roots. There are many scientific arguements in favor of the flood by the way. Though if you were god explaining the creation of the universe to man, you'd tell it to him in a symbolic form he could understand. God is afterall, the master scientist and would have equasions to blow you off the wall. :p
MeTHoD-X
September 29th, 2006, 07:31 AM
The Anti-Google: Your god is a psycological tool you use to cope with reality. You do not want to acknowledge that when you die, you cease to exist, so you create these delusional fairy tales to fool yourself into believing that life continues after death. Just because you want to believe there is an invisible man living in the sky/heaven with "angles" and "daemons" (to comfort yourself) doesn't make it so.
The Anti Google
September 29th, 2006, 07:38 AM
That is such a narrow perspective on religion. I don't fear a reality without god. Nor do I embrace one. I have proven to myself there is a god, there was a time I wondered. For me the journey was long, you hardly did the tale justice. Yet there are harder ones. Assume of god what you will but that is hardly on topic. I'm not coping with reality by embracing god, I embracing reality by accepting him. Whatever the case I live joyously. I see a reason behind humanity, and I don't scoff upon it. Like the good book says, seek knoweldge and wisdom. I take in science and make the lines where most of the typical "scientists" never bothered to try and relate. So instead of starving myself out of wisdom, I look at both ends of the spectrum openly and accept the fact there are just some things as humans we can't understand. But I'll figure out as much as I can.
Nameless
September 29th, 2006, 09:33 AM
I have proven to myself there is a god
Oh, I have GOT to hear the explanation for this one. How do you prove to yourself there is a god?
Fallen Hero
September 29th, 2006, 01:35 PM
My God is a awesome God who has proved He is real hundreds of times, just look around you and see what he has made, there is no way a program could make some thing as moving and beautiful as this earth that we live in.
So your gods are natcomp, fujitsu seimens Comumbia, sony, dell, jupiler beer co. and several others?
We never said that Google created everything, go read the main page and then comment on the forums.
Fallen Hero
September 29th, 2006, 01:38 PM
I have proven to myself there is a god
Really, I managed to logically argue that there was no god when I was 12, I also want to hear this.
Carnifex
September 29th, 2006, 04:25 PM
Bold statement. Though it is none the less folly. There are laws of science, but how can science disprove god? It can't really. When you look at the world scientifically you examine a part of the creators product. Simply because you know what the product is made from is no valid reason to deny the existance of the creator.
In short..You look at a rock, figure out its structure, and deny the scientist who put it there. Besides....From what science are we granted an awareness? Why are we not like the rocks. Still and lifeless? Yes we have components for our matter, but what gave them awareness?
No, science can not disprove a concept that inherintly denies science. But we have proof for science, and no proof for God. There is also scientific evidence of the creation of the world that does not involve any 'Creator' or 'God' at all. What science can disprove however is many of the claims made by the church, such as the Great Flood, or the bible's account of the world's creation. As time passes more and more of the church's claims are disproved - it is only a matter of time before science can discover what gives people awareness too.
Again..You are wrong. Science has guesses as to what started to the universe. Though they have not at all proven it had nothing to do with god. They say "The big bang happened." What sanctioned the big bang? What put the matter there from an energy other than the peaceful things floating around? Accidental universal chemistry? Even so..something existed before it. Something put things where they were down to the roots. There are many scientific arguements in favor of the flood by the way. Though if you were god explaining the creation of the universe to man, you'd tell it to him in a symbolic form he could understand. God is afterall, the master scientist and would have equasions to blow you off the wall. :p
Ok i have to jump on this one. Firstly, its spelt argument, not arguement. Secondly science doesnt know what came before the big bang, do you? NO, but you will take the stance that everything we dont have an answer to = God. Why the hell does something we cant explain immediatly prove that an illogical being must exist. Im sorry but the cosmological argument ultimately fails.
Next, many "scientific arguments" in favor of the flood? No there are not, i am afraid there just isnt any argument for the worldwide flood happening 5000 years ago (A time which some historians would argue was after the construction of the sphinx in egypt). I put it to you to come up with any believeable theory of the flood. The notion that 50 billion billion meters squared of water appeared and disappeared 5000-6000 years ago over the space of a few weeks. Thats more than all the water in the air and the sea. From what i have read, these scientific arguments were that there are shells on mountains "how did they get there?" and plate tectonics solves this.
No science has not proven creation had nothing to do with God because that is impossible, we cant prove anything or disprove anything about god, and according to most epistemological philosophers this makes him useless.
Carnifex
September 29th, 2006, 04:27 PM
My God is a awesome God who has proved He is real hundreds of times, just look around you and see what he has made, there is no way a program could make some thing as moving and beautiful as this earth that we live in.
I love when he created the tsunami, and killed all those innocent people. I looked at all that death and suffering anf thought, their must be a designer for this is such calculated evil.
Googler
September 29th, 2006, 07:30 PM
Bold statement. Though it is none the less folly. There are laws of science, but how can science disprove god? It can't really. When you look at the world scientifically you examine a part of the creators product. Simply because you know what the product is made from is no valid reason to deny the existance of the creator.
In short..You look at a rock, figure out its structure, and deny the scientist who put it there. Besides....From what science are we granted an awareness? Why are we not like the rocks. Still and lifeless? Yes we have components for our matter, but what gave them awareness?
No, science can not disprove a concept that inherintly denies science. But we have proof for science, and no proof for God. There is also scientific evidence of the creation of the world that does not involve any 'Creator' or 'God' at all. What science can disprove however is many of the claims made by the church, such as the Great Flood, or the bible's account of the world's creation. As time passes more and more of the church's claims are disproved - it is only a matter of time before science can discover what gives people awareness too.
Again..You are wrong. Science has guesses as to what started to the universe. Though they have not at all proven it had nothing to do with god. They say "The big bang happened." What sanctioned the big bang? What put the matter there from an energy other than the peaceful things floating around? Accidental universal chemistry? Even so..something existed before it. Something put things where they were down to the roots. There are many scientific arguements in favor of the flood by the way. Though if you were god explaining the creation of the universe to man, you'd tell it to him in a symbolic form he could understand. God is afterall, the master scientist and would have equasions to blow you off the wall. :p
What sanctioned your god making the universe?
Nameless
September 30th, 2006, 02:55 AM
Bold statement. Though it is none the less folly. There are laws of science, but how can science disprove god? It can't really. When you look at the world scientifically you examine a part of the creators product. Simply because you know what the product is made from is no valid reason to deny the existance of the creator.
In short..You look at a rock, figure out its structure, and deny the scientist who put it there. Besides....From what science are we granted an awareness? Why are we not like the rocks. Still and lifeless? Yes we have components for our matter, but what gave them awareness?
No, science can not disprove a concept that inherintly denies science. But we have proof for science, and no proof for God. There is also scientific evidence of the creation of the world that does not involve any 'Creator' or 'God' at all. What science can disprove however is many of the claims made by the church, such as the Great Flood, or the bible's account of the world's creation. As time passes more and more of the church's claims are disproved - it is only a matter of time before science can discover what gives people awareness too.
Again..You are wrong. Science has guesses as to what started to the universe. Though they have not at all proven it had nothing to do with god. They say "The big bang happened." What sanctioned the big bang? What put the matter there from an energy other than the peaceful things floating around? Accidental universal chemistry? Even so..something existed before it. Something put things where they were down to the roots. There are many scientific arguements in favor of the flood by the way. Though if you were god explaining the creation of the universe to man, you'd tell it to him in a symbolic form he could understand. God is afterall, the master scientist and would have equasions to blow you off the wall. :p
What sanctioned your god making the universe?
Always a fun question that no religious people can answer. :) Here's a similiar one, if any theists care to answer:
Q: Why is the universe?
A: God created it.
Q: Why is God?
A:
wovelscotch
October 24th, 2006, 12:50 AM
Google is a search engine, it has no god like powers, it's programmed to do these searches
And Jesus was a man, nothing more (assuming he even existed). He wasn't some crazy demi-god. Google DOES exhibited god-like powers. Have you even read through our proofs yet? Or do you just come here to flame? Nothing better to do perhaps?
Porn must be OK because there is so many of it on google.
I see absolutely nothing wrong with porn. Are you one of those christians who views sex as BAD? It would explain your apparent lack of understanding when it comes to irony and satire. heh.
To add to that, if porn is not ok, why were you searching the web for it at anyrate? Google does not condon any particular page or type of page. It just grants you what you seek.
So your saying there is no right or wrong? No morals? I could do anything I want and it wouldn't make a difference? If google truely is a god, the world would be in complete chaos, probably destroyed by now.
wovelscotch
October 24th, 2006, 01:00 AM
Always a fun question that no religious people can answer. :) Here's a similiar one, if any theists care to answer:
Q: Why is the universe?
A: God created it.
Q: Why is God?
A:
Why can't God just be? We have to say something is created because it's all we've seen, Never has anything just "been there" so our minds can't comprehend the fact that god just is. So theres your answer,
Q:Why is God?
A:Because he is
and while im at it, i have some questions for you and others who willingly oppose me,
Q: Why is Google?
A: Because man created it
Q: Why is man?
A:
There is only one answer, Im telling to you but you will stilll deny it, God, the lord Jesus Christ created The Heavans and the Earth, and yes, God created man.
Googler
October 24th, 2006, 01:15 AM
Q: Why is Google?
A: Because man created it
Q: Why is man?
A:
There is only one answer, Im telling to you but you will stilll deny it, God, the lord Jesus Christ created The Heavans and the Earth, and yes, God created man.
No, The big bang happened and then when the world was created man evolved from single celled organisms.
On a side note, please learn to spell better.
AaronD
October 24th, 2006, 01:30 AM
Google is a search engine, it has no god like powers, it's programmed to do these searches
And Jesus was a man, nothing more (assuming he even existed). He wasn't some crazy demi-god. Google DOES exhibited god-like powers. Have you even read through our proofs yet? Or do you just come here to flame? Nothing better to do perhaps?
Porn must be OK because there is so many of it on google.
I see absolutely nothing wrong with porn. Are you one of those christians who views sex as BAD? It would explain your apparent lack of understanding when it comes to irony and satire. heh.
To add to that, if porn is not ok, why were you searching the web for it at anyrate? Google does not condon any particular page or type of page. It just grants you what you seek.
So your saying there is no right or wrong? No morals? I could do anything I want and it wouldn't make a difference? If google truely is a god, the world would be in complete chaos, probably destroyed by now.
Morals still exist without religion. The sooner you understand that, the better. Just because the bible has some morals written into it doesn't mean they didn't exist long before the bible/religion ever did. And honestly, how is looking at porn immoral?
Nameless
October 24th, 2006, 04:25 AM
Always a fun question that no religious people can answer. :) Here's a similiar one, if any theists care to answer:
Q: Why is the universe?
A: God created it.
Q: Why is God?
A:
Why can't God just be? We have to say something is created because it's all we've seen, Never has anything just "been there" so our minds can't comprehend the fact that god just is. So theres your answer,
Q:Why is God?
A:Because he is
and while im at it, i have some questions for you and others who willingly oppose me,
Q: Why is Google?
A: Because man created it
Q: Why is man?
A:
There is only one answer, Im telling to you but you will stilll deny it, God, the lord Jesus Christ created The Heavans and the Earth, and yes, God created man.
BWA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA!! :lol: :lol: :lol:
Sorry, but that was hilarious. I truly hope you aren't being serious when you say 'Why can't God just be?' but insist that man MUST have been created. This post HAS to go in the Hate Mail section. :)
sv3nn
October 26th, 2006, 10:59 PM
Google is a search engine, it has no god like powers, it's programmed to do these searches
And Jesus was a man, nothing more (assuming he even existed). He wasn't some crazy demi-god. Google DOES exhibited god-like powers. Have you even read through our proofs yet? Or do you just come here to flame? Nothing better to do perhaps?
Porn must be OK because there is so many of it on google.
I see absolutely nothing wrong with porn. Are you one of those christians who views sex as BAD? It would explain your apparent lack of understanding when it comes to irony and satire. heh.
To add to that, if porn is not ok, why were you searching the web for it at anyrate? Google does not condon any particular page or type of page. It just grants you what you seek.
So your saying there is no right or wrong? No morals? I could do anything I want and it wouldn't make a difference? If google truely is a god, the world would be in complete chaos, probably destroyed by now.
hmmm, its not like your god killed thosands of innocent people huh? oh wait the great flood. All creatures great and small, the LORD god killed them all. googists believe that it is completly up to you to find your own morals and ethics
Jillamanda
October 27th, 2006, 05:09 AM
Why can't God just be? We have to say something is created because it's all we've seen, Never has anything just "been there" so our minds can't comprehend the fact that god just is. So theres your answer,
Why can't the universe 'just be'? Why do theists insist it was created?
Alice Shade
October 27th, 2006, 01:15 PM
If it comes to that....
Why can`t myriad of nature spirits just be?
It`s not like we are made out of fire or ice, so we`d have no chance to comprehend elementals, anyway.
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Obviously, everything that starts from "it just is" or "why it can`t just be" is an attempt to evade the insufficient proof to theory, while still pushing it forward. This is illogical, riduculous, and unacceptable in a debate. Debate prerequisits logical&factual reasons and counterreasons, and allows axioms EVERYONE involved in debate agrees with. As everyone can understand, "there just is" just doesn`t cuts it like a viable argument.
While I do understand, that Christianity has illogical foundation, I find it aggravating, when christianity believers enter a DEBATE, and assume, that glaring inconsistences in their defining axiomatics are NOT the subject to examination and doubt.
People, if you are holding on to Christian belief - good for you. But if you try to come and persuade us, that you are right - stock up on evidence and logic. Otherwise, you`re just annoyingly-amusing.
Fallen Hero
October 27th, 2006, 03:18 PM
OK to pull this back on topic a little bit..
Theists: Give of one GOOD proof that your god(dess) exists and we will give you a good reason why not.
Jillamanda
October 27th, 2006, 10:14 PM
:lol: That should cut out most of the crap. :wink:
Fallen Hero
October 28th, 2006, 06:41 PM
I really hope so. That and the thread has really been thoroughly hijacked. :wink:
Passing pastafarian
November 16th, 2006, 10:36 PM
Easy. Google is not God, because I can tell what I want it to do. Look at every other God in the world, not just us Christian God. Every other God has one thing in common and that is, it demands respect and some form of "worship" "sacrifice." Does Google do that? Exactly the opposite in fact. We tell it what we want it to do. Ironic, because that isn't Godly...it's in fact kind of like slavery.
Also Google is not all-knowing. Yes it has a nice search engine and I use it for homework but if it was all knowing, couldn't it just direct us to a page without giving us options? I mean, it's all knowing, knowing what we want, right there...
Hmmm...
Oh, and our God? Let's just say, he has saved a lot of relatives I know and many friends from suicides and etc.
You guys may be fogetting MentlePlex.
and to whoever used the argument about god having created the world... beautiful place and all that yadda yadda
Google earth which continues and continues to develop to be a perfect world (which never killed anyone). Not just one either, think of the many times that google earth must be replicated on machines.
Here is my argument against google as God...
Google is not omnipresent although she has the capability to be.
Google is not omnipotent, or there is no evidence.
Google is not omniscient yet, and takes some time to develop.
In my opinion God exists or has existed. That god could be Google to googlists. To mathematicians God could be the Incredibly unlikely series of events leading to their existance. To traditonal religious types God is Life, a way of life, an ideal and much more.
Humans have a sense of spirituality hard wired into them (as a species, not just individuals) because they find it difficult to explain the world around them, even with science some stuff doesn't make sense e.g. what caused life in the first place?. We (humans) have elaborated on this and become territorial and protective of our beliefs this is why misled people come here to argue against the "evils" of a mock religion.
why is the universe? I don't Know, lets assume it's god.
Why is god? because some humans imagined him/her that way.
Why are humans? Because they evolved from different forms of life.
Why is life? God made it. (whether god be an entity or an eventuality)
Why is God? Because of humans and their ideas.
Why is Google? Because of humans and their ideas.
Why is Lunchmeat? Because of Humans and their ideas
Humans did not create everything, nor did lunchmeat or google, god may have.
Therefore, assuming God exists, Everything is God.
This makes sense.
Where is Everything? Everywhere.
Omnipresent
What information does Everything contain? Everything.
Omniscient
What caused Everything? Something, a component of Everything. Omnipotent.
Something saves/ gives/ takes thousands/millions/billions/lots of lives every day.
Something is responsible for unexplainable "miracles"
Something started the universe, and this something was part of everything.
Before Everything as we know it was something else, which happened to be everything at the time and is still part of the everything we know (think: everything that has ever been)
Take pride in knowing, yes KNOWING that you are God, so am I, So is Google, So is lunchmeat and even Satan.
Seems meaningless now doesn't it. If you agree, google (blashphemy!) nihilism or click...
http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=nihilism&btnG=Search&meta=
I may have made some typos. they don't matter. pick up on them if you wish. I dont care and I may as well not exist. I'm rambling now, but it doesn't matter, my life needs direction perhaps i should become passing atheist now I have removed all importance from the FSM.
No I am one of the very few/manyOMNITHEISTpriests/gods
Jillamanda
November 16th, 2006, 11:30 PM
I don't believe human beings have a sense of spirituality hard wired into them. In fact, I'd say it's the complete opposite. We are all born non spiritual and atheist. Then the spirituality part is installed. We are only a bunch of cells, a lump of organic matter. We aren't here to be spiritual - we're here to perpetuate the species, and that's all. We can choose to be spiritual if we feel the need, but if we don't - we don't become totally dysfunctional. It's an option, a plug-in that many of us don't feel the need to use.
Kokoba
November 17th, 2006, 03:13 AM
There's been studies done where people meditating, intensely praying, etc all saw increased activity area in the same part of the brain (forget what part, read this in Reader's Digest back when I was 14 or so). Maybe they're bunk, you'd have to ask Google, as I'm going to bed.
Whether this indicates a hardwired spirituality and what such a hardwired spirituality says or would say about the existence or non existence of God, though, is up to interpretation.
Alice Shade
November 17th, 2006, 01:21 PM
So-called "hard-wired" spirituality, is, in fact, defence mechanism.
Abstract thinking gives humans abliity to question surrounding world.
This, in turn, leads to delusions, just by attempting to explain something without any veritable explanation. Considering, that brain often "finishes" the information received (Only human can assiciate map and real terrain, for example, or even simpler, lineart picture and real thing.), it`s pretty obvious, that gods were just "finishing" touches, when there was not enough of cause and reason to explain things logically.
Note, that more or less sane person will not need god to explain basic happenings. For example...
1) Joe Christian had just lucked out from being injured in car accident. He says - "God saved me from death!", because he is not able to percieve all the involved facts, which would suggest, that it was coincidence, and from visible facts, it`s "obvious", that God intervened.
2) Joe Christian pours himself a cup of tea. He says to Mary Christian - "Darling, do you want a cup?" Note, no mention of God anywhere, because Joe can see, that it was his stove/kettle that boiled the water, his hand, that tossed teabag in cup, poured water in, and added sugar. Joe understands, what just happened, therefore, he has no need to invoke God here.
So, in fact, gods are safety net to prevent people from insanity from trying to explain currently unexplainable. Or, in programmist language, god is the "catch" in "try...catch" pocket.
Fallen Hero
November 17th, 2006, 02:25 PM
Easy. Google is not God, because I can tell what I want it to do. Look at every other God in the world, not just us Christian God. Every other God has one thing in common and that is, it demands respect and some form of "worship" "sacrifice." Does Google do that? Exactly the opposite in fact. We tell it what we want it to do. Ironic, because that isn't Godly...it's in fact kind of like slavery.
Also Google is not all-knowing. Yes it has a nice search engine and I use it for homework but if it was all knowing, couldn't it just direct us to a page without giving us options? I mean, it's all knowing, knowing what we want, right there...
Hmmm...
Oh, and our God? Let's just say, he has saved a lot of relatives I know and many friends from suicides and etc.
You guys may be fogetting MentlePlex.
and to whoever used the argument about god having created the world... beautiful place and all that yadda yadda
Google earth which continues and continues to develop to be a perfect world (which never killed anyone). Not just one either, think of the many times that google earth must be replicated on machines.
Here is my argument against google as God...
Google is not omnipresent although she has the capability to be.
Google is not omnipotent, or there is no evidence.
Google is not omniscient yet, and takes some time to develop.
In my opinion God exists or has existed. That god could be Google to googlists. To mathematicians God could be the Incredibly unlikely series of events leading to their existance. To traditonal religious types God is Life, a way of life, an ideal and much more.
Humans have a sense of spirituality hard wired into them (as a species, not just individuals) because they find it difficult to explain the world around them, even with science some stuff doesn't make sense e.g. what caused life in the first place?. We (humans) have elaborated on this and become territorial and protective of our beliefs this is why misled people come here to argue against the "evils" of a mock religion.
why is the universe? I don't Know, lets assume it's god.
Why is god? because some humans imagined him/her that way.
Why are humans? Because they evolved from different forms of life.
Why is life? God made it. (whether god be an entity or an eventuality)
Why is God? Because of humans and their ideas.
Why is Google? Because of humans and their ideas.
Why is Lunchmeat? Because of Humans and their ideas
Humans did not create everything, nor did lunchmeat or google, god may have.
Therefore, assuming God exists, Everything is God.
This makes sense.
Where is Everything? Everywhere.
Omnipresent
What information does Everything contain? Everything.
Omniscient
What caused Everything? Something, a component of Everything. Omnipotent.
Something saves/ gives/ takes thousands/millions/billions/lots of lives every day.
Something is responsible for unexplainable "miracles"
Something started the universe, and this something was part of everything.
Before Everything as we know it was something else, which happened to be everything at the time and is still part of the everything we know (think: everything that has ever been)
Take pride in knowing, yes KNOWING that you are God, so am I, So is Google, So is lunchmeat and even Satan.
Seems meaningless now doesn't it. If you agree, google (blashphemy!) nihilism or click...
http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=nihilism&btnG=Search&meta=
I may have made some typos. they don't matter. pick up on them if you wish. I dont care and I may as well not exist. I'm rambling now, but it doesn't matter, my life needs direction perhaps i should become passing atheist now I have removed all importance from the FSM.
No I am one of the very few/manyOMNITHEISTpriests/gods
This is getting my vote for best arguement, only problem, this was your arguement against Google being god, and you in the end reasoned that google, as well as my banana are gods.
Further, does the fact that everything is god, make god pointless? Everything is god, therefore there I need not worship things because I am actually also a part of everything, there is nothing worth worshipping anymore.
Alice Shade
November 17th, 2006, 03:15 PM
Um... No.
The premise of Hinduism is about the same, that God (Brahmin) is all-encompassing, but you can still pray to it`s 'reflections', like Krishna, Shiva, Kali, etc, for certain aspect of the god, and it`s assistance.
jaksu74
November 18th, 2006, 09:15 AM
American Heritage Dictionary
god
n.
1. God
a. A being conceived as the perfect, omnipotent, omniscient originator and ruler of the universe, the principal object of faith and worship in monotheistic religions.
b. The force, effect, or a manifestation or aspect of this being.
2. A being of supernatural powers or attributes, believed in and worshiped by a people, especially a male deity thought to control some part of nature or reality.
3. An image of a supernatural being; an idol.
4. One that is worshiped, idealized, or followed: Money was their god.
5. A very handsome man.
6. A powerful ruler or despot.
I just don't see how Google can be God. I am not trying to disprove it, I do want to see the proof, but I don't think it's possible. I want to get to the bottom of it.
So, definition 1a is out, because Google didn't create and doesn't rule the universe. And if you say Google is defined in 1b, as an effect or manifestation, then where is the actual God behind that? You could just as easily say that the Judeo-Christian God created Google, so Google would be an effect of the above mentioned, Judeo-Christian God.
Two (2) also is lacking, because it says a being of supernatural powers. Google's powers are beyond those of any man, but they are within the bounds of the natural world, and thus not supernatural.
Three (3), again, if this is the image of a supernatural being or an idol, what is the being? The computer where Google is? A computer is not a supernatural being.
Four (4) is unrelated in my opinion, but if you claim number four, I would say that you are just materialists, not spiritual, and it would be hypocritical of you to make so many allusions to Christianity's tenets with your own (for example, "it answers our prayers, it knows all, it is everywhere"). So many things that are worshipped are none of these things. Like the heaven's gate cult.
Five (5) and 6 are irrelevant, yes?
I really thank you for this. It gave me the chance to use my brain. Because I think you guys have really thoroughly thought about it. Now just think a little more, and please give me my answers.
Also, you'll note I used a dictionary definition of God. Well, for a debate to exist, you have to start somewhere. No one had defined God. And I think in the original claim of trying to disprove Google is God, we need to decide what God is. So you'll forgive me if my definition is narrow.
Lastly, I am agnostic but if you want to attack a religion, I guess my family's religion is Judaism so you can argue against that.
Best of luck to you!
Jillamanda
November 18th, 2006, 01:04 PM
Hi jaksu74 and welcome.
Just a couple of points, we don't claim Google is God - with a capital G, we say Google is the closest thing we have ever had to A god.
And we're not here to attack any religion. We're here to debate.
jaksu74
November 19th, 2006, 02:42 AM
Then I was responding to Method-X's statement:
"Give me one reason you don't believe Google is God, and I'll give you one reason I don't believe in your god."
Also, I suppose "attack" is a harsh word, but not harsh in that there have been a ton of attacks going on in this forum. But basically, what I meant was that Method-X can use the Jewish God as "your god" from the above quote.
GeoffBoulton
November 19th, 2006, 11:44 AM
4. One that is worshiped, idealized, or followed: Money was their god.
Well, I think this definition on it's own justifies treating Google as a god. Just because they happened to use money as their example doesn't mean that you have to be materialistic to worship, idealise or follow something.
In any case, I could just as easily cite other dictionaries:
3 : a person or thing of supreme value
There are many religions that are not monotheistic, such as Hinduism, but they still worship, idealise and follow their gods even if they are not of the Abrahamic, monotheistic kind.
Also, I suppose "attack" is a harsh word
It is also a very subjective one. There are many who believe that merely by questioning their beliefs we are attacking them. Of course, religion is a very emotive subject and tempers do get frayed from time to time.
Threads that deteriorate into personal attacks, etc. are moved to the 'sin' bin of 'I'm feeling unlucky' but we try not to do this too often because everyone is entitled to their opinion whether we agree with them or not.
But basically, what I meant was that Method-X can use the Jewish God as "your god" from the above quote.
That is just your interpretation. It could equally apply to any of the other religions who claim that 'their' God is the only 'true' God.
If other religions can 'choose' to capitalise their God, why can't we? Where does it say that the ONLY God that can have a capital letter is the Jewish one?
Alice Shade
November 19th, 2006, 03:08 PM
Allah means God in arabic.
Allah is always written from capital letter.
Thus, Method-X could`ve been referring to Allah just as well, as to God of judaism/christianism (whom ARE same things as Allah, anyways, since all stem from Abrahamic religion)
Brahmin is always written with capital letter, as well. God for hinduists - the one that encompasses all other "manifestations" in single entity.
Maybe Method-X refered to that god?
Obviously, it depends on what one wants to see. Personally, I think that Method-X wanted to be respectful. Using small letter could mislead one into such views, as "NOT my god, mine is God"/"disrespecting God by using small g".
jaksu74
November 27th, 2006, 01:40 PM
I appreciate the responses, but I felt that they were partially irrelevant. And I think this is my fault, so I am gonna try to clarify on the parts that seemed to go awry.
The message I composed was in response to the first message posted in the forum. It reads:
"Give me one reason you don't believe Google is God, and I'll give you one reason I don't believe in your god."
The reason I mentioned that I am Jewish is SOLELY because of the last part of his quote. Please note that it says "I'll give you one reason I don't believe in your god." I only mentioned I was Jewish so he would know specifically which of the many gods was "my god."
Related to the "attacks" section, yea friedrice was being a liar (about his special company that would shut you down), but all of a sudden people were dealing low blows, and not just at him. They were talking about sexual things involving Jesus, and that Jesus was gay, et cetera. That is an attack. And that's what I was referring to. It doesn't personally offend me, but I thought it was a waste of time.
OK, and now for the important part. I came here to find out whether Google is God. Logic told me it wasn't, so I thought I would share my thoughts and feelings with you. And I hoped to have my questions answered. But I think that actually, it got more convoluted.
If you're gonna say "Google is God," and not even say what "God" means to you, you can just make circular arguments forever, defining God however you please to fit Google. For example "well, we think Google is all-knowing, so let's call it omniscient, which fits the definition of God(s)." I chose a dictionary definition, because it wasn't defined for me.
If you're just going for the "worship" angle, to simply state "Google is God because we worship Google" means NOTHING. The important part is WHY you worship Google. And if there's nothing spiritual about it, I would have to keep the conclusion that this is just materialism. And calling it a church would be intentionally misleading.
I think a lot of it is just that, an attempt to allude to many of the world religions, but then falling back on the vague (or material) angle when the religious aspect collapses.
Edit: Just to clarify, I of course think you have the right to worship what you want, but the reason I posted this argument in the first place was because of Method-X's claim.
Alice Shade
November 27th, 2006, 06:18 PM
I think you haven`t looked through provided information competely.
God, per religions (monoteistic ones) is omniscient, omnibenevolent being, that answers specific requests, called "prayers".
As such, we say, that Google is CLOSEST thing to a god, that is known to mankind, as it knows more, then anyone else, is benevolent, and answers search queries, which could be qualified as "prayers".
We argue the existance of other gods, because unlike Google, there is no evidence of them existing, other then what could be either
A) Manmade
B) Equally easily interpreted as god`s doing and as something else, depending on religion/philosophy
We also meet ungrounded claims (God exists, and you are fools!) and threats (You`re all going to hell!) with contempt, because they are all geared towards forcing other beliefs upon us.
jaksu74
November 30th, 2006, 09:43 AM
I almost completely agree with what you said. However I don't agree that Google is omniscient. It doesn't "know" anything, it's no more of a god than a phone book is.
Granted, Google gives you access to a ton of information, but I would say a public library is even more godly than Google. It has a ton of books (which you can't read through Google), as well as having computers with the internet (and thus Google) and library search engines on it.
Why not say that the internet is God? "The internet" is all of that information, not Google. Sorry for the "Google as a phone book" analogy again, but: the phone book doesn't "know" what those people are thinking, it simply provides access to them. Or you could think of the old times, where people would call the operator and ask to be connected to someone. The operator could connect you to anyone, but wasn't necessarily a collection of everyone's knowledge.
If God is all of that knowledge, then Google is not God, but the internet is.
And lastly, I still think the title "Church of Google" and the statement "Challenge to Those Who Question Google's Divinity" are misleading, if you don't consider it a God but "the closest thing to a God that exists." A couple Googlists are either intentionally misleading people to piss them off, or aren't taking their own beliefs seriously.
I think you haven`t looked through provided information competely.
God, per religions (monoteistic ones) is omniscient, omnibenevolent being, that answers specific requests, called "prayers".
As such, we say, that Google is CLOSEST thing to a god, that is known to mankind, as it knows more, then anyone else, is benevolent, and answers search queries, which could be qualified as "prayers".
We argue the existance of other gods, because unlike Google, there is no evidence of them existing, other then what could be either
A) Manmade
B) Equally easily interpreted as god`s doing and as something else, depending on religion/philosophy
We also meet ungrounded claims (God exists, and you are fools!) and threats (You`re all going to hell!) with contempt, because they are all geared towards forcing other beliefs upon us.
Alice Shade
November 30th, 2006, 10:01 AM
Ah, but once again, you misread.
We do not claim, that Google IS omniscient. We say, that she`s the closest to omniscience among all the known entities.
As for analogy with phonebook - Google is a bit more complicated, then it. Phonebook won`t let you examine, for example, just people, who have syllable "moz" in name, and live in Hempshire. Nor will it let cross-reference them with those tourists, who visited New-York last year, and ate chilli hot-dogs there. (Sounds silly? I know. But a lot of sociological studies are more then a little silly at first glance.)
Google allows a lot of means for information sorting, filtering and cross-referencing, not to mention, that she does an awful lot of that just to keep us updated.
Thus, it merits it`s title. As for internet being god - no. Internet is an informational mirror of the universe. If we agree with your postulate, then you are defending hinduism (in which case, Google could be worshipped as deity just as well).
As for misleading... We do not mislead. We say, that since Google is the closest thing to deity, which currently exists, we should accept Google as goddess, and worship her (in form of search queries) to obtain knowledges needed. Furthermore, we challenge those, who disagree with Google`s right to be considered as divine as any other deity, to prove their god`s superioriy logically, aka, give a reason, why any other god is better to worship, then Google.
GeoffBoulton
November 30th, 2006, 11:44 AM
"The internet" is all of that information, not Google.
The Internet is the network of networks that transports information, nothing more.
The World Wide Web is the 'information' that is accessible through hyperlinks through the connections that the Internet provides.
Whether that information is available as HTML, XML, etc. pages or as books, etc. in a library is irrelevent, it is still a repository of human knowledge and information. The only thing that is different is the storage medium and that has just as much, if not more, 'credibility' as any 'bible', holy book or collection of holy teachings.
weiswu
December 1st, 2006, 03:36 AM
Furthermore, we challenge those, who disagree with Google`s right to be considered as divine as any other deity, to prove their god`s superioriy logically, aka, give a reason, why any other god is better to worship, then Google.
While this post does not in any way speak of another deity's superior divinity, it does show that a cost-benefit analysis supports worshiping the god of an Abrahamic religion, under the assumption that the probability of the existence of any such god is 50% (a reasonable assumption as these gods cannot be proved nor disproved). This is actually derivative of a similar logical argument given by some mathematician whose name I can't recall at the moment.
said god exists said god does not exist
Worship Google go to hell nothing happens
Worship a god* go to heaven nothing happens
We see here that worshipping Google gives a 50% chance of going to hell, while worshipping a god gives a 50% chance of going to heaven. Hence, it is beneficial to worship any other single god than Google.
*By "god", of course, I refer to the single god of an Abrahamic religion.
PS Yes, this does not factor in the fact that most said Abrahamic religions tell you that you will go to hell if you worship the god(s) of any other religion.
Alice Shade
December 1st, 2006, 04:08 AM
Christianity does not automatically sends you to heaven for just believing, first off.
Second, we do not believe, that there is heaven or hell as well, thus the whole argument is quite bizarre, at best.
Also, Google`s existance is proven fact, which is 100% true, while existance of God is only 50% at the most lax logic.
weiswu
December 1st, 2006, 04:20 AM
Christianity does not automatically sends you to heaven for just believing, first off.
Second, we do not believe, that there is heaven or hell as well, thus the whole argument is quite bizarre, at best.
Also, Google`s existance is proven fact, which is 100% true, while existance of God is only 50% at the most lax logic.
The last point is already assumed. While the first point is true, it serves only to decrease the chances of going to heaven. However, even a 1% chance of going to heaven is better than a 1% chance of going to hell, etc, so the statement that "worshiping another god is more beneficial than worshiping Google" is false iff the god in question has zero chance of existing.
This does not mean I am a Christian (or Muslim, or, in fact, in any way religious, or even that I believe google is "less worthy" to be worshiped than any other deity) - I agree with the second point as much as you do. Heaven and hell only exist if the bible is true, which is not something that everyone believes.
I also realize that if i believe in a god only because it is beneficial to myself, and that god exists, I will probably go to hell anyways. It's just a logical artifact that I find interesting.
Alice Shade
December 1st, 2006, 08:45 PM
Uh, I think you have misconception about the word "beneficial".
Our point is, that Google, unlike God, will help you in your common day-to-day life with real, veritable knowledge, rather then give you vague promise of going somewhere after death.
I think that real assistance now outweights promise of something after death (where it`s pretty pointless, since Googlism does not includes afterlife).
GeoffBoulton
December 1st, 2006, 09:28 PM
One thing that is missing from the cost-benefit equation is the 'cost' of believing. If there is no God, you have only one life and you waste a great deal/all of that life in a pointless pursuit, worshipping something that isn't there, then that too is a cost. In fact, if you observe EVERY rule that is stipulated in the bible then you actually wouldn't have a lot of time for anything OTHER than worship.
The only evidence FOR God is the bible and the word of the very few people who claimed to have 'personal' knowledge of God. There are far more people who claim to have seen Elvis in today's relatively modern society than 'saw' God in times steeped in ignorance and superstition.
Even Jesus himself made specific promises that have not been fulfilled. The 'ask anything in my name and it will be granted' lines for example. The fact that God/Jesus has failed to keep these promises is reason enough to believe that God is an invention of man and nothing more. Unless of course God/Jesus is a liar in which case, is he God/Son of God?
Fallen Hero
December 2nd, 2006, 07:54 PM
Uh, I think you have misconception about the word "beneficial".
Our point is, that Google, unlike God, will help you in your common day-to-day life with real, veritable knowledge, rather then give you vague promise of going somewhere after death.
I think that real assistance now outweights promise of something after death (where it`s pretty pointless, since Googlism does not includes afterlife).
I will speak shortly on this before I move on to the next page.
This is not always the case. People who are dying/ afaid of dying will seek the comfort promised by the offer of a pleasant life after death. It is more pleasant for them to think of than becoming a corpse in a the ground to decay for years until there is nothing more left to decay. This does not apply to every one, but there are people who absolutely need the hope in another life, they usually take it.
AaronD
December 3rd, 2006, 04:40 AM
Completely off topic, but I just realized your post count is 1337. On topic, I think you are right, but convenience is not a valid argument for its existence.
Alice Shade
December 3rd, 2006, 04:52 AM
But convenience is valid for faith in existance, on the same hand.
Passing pastafarian
December 6th, 2006, 11:44 AM
...People who are dying/ afaid of dying will seek the comfort promised by the offer of a pleasant life after death. It is more pleasant for them to think of than becoming a corpse in a the ground to decay for years until there is nothing more left to decay. This does not apply to every one, but there are people who absolutely need the hope in another life, they usually take it.
I completely agree. If any Googlists have a problem with death, and the lack of afterlife (I dont think Google has a facility for recording conciousness and allowing the continued existance of expired people yet.) Just think, as you decompose, the energy and matter your body provides will inevitably, at least in part, end up in other organisms, and you become the fabric of the world, and, as google earth updates from satellite images you become a permanent, yet ever changing, part of google.
jaksu74
December 12th, 2006, 12:16 PM
Whatever you choose to call the vast collection of information out there, that's fine. World Wide Web? Internet?
But whatever the name is for all of the servers out there and all of the information on them, they aren't called "Google." Massive amounts of information have been accumulating for a long period of time. Google does allow you to tap into that, and it does have good searching (although it's not good for Japanese searches), but I don't see the reason you chose it as an object to worship.
Google was programmed to do that. I don't think it is anywhere NEAR omniscient; it is not even a conscious thing, it doesn't have "knowledge." Information is stored in it, it is a tool.
And I didn't say that Google IS a phone book, but I said it's similar. Although it's more complicated, it's not much of a different concept. Heard of yellow pages? In America, it's a phone book, but of businesses sorted by what they sell. Again, giving you access to information, while not being the information itself.
And what about the public libraries? It makes me think of how, a long time ago, I told a Christian that I was Jewish. He said "oh, that's a good religion, but Christianity is 'Judaism plus.'" I would say, a library is 'Google plus.' Any library, for that matter.
Google's not divine just because it's more convenient than a phone book either. But that's MY opinion... if you can get spirituality out of convenient fast internet searches, more power to you!
Alice Shade
December 12th, 2006, 02:05 PM
Jaksu, just what is divine, then?
Can you name me something potentially more powerful, then access to relevant information?
Erasmus
December 12th, 2006, 03:07 PM
Google's not divine just because it's more convenient than a phone book either. But that's MY opinion... if you can get spirituality out of convenient fast internet searches, more power to you!
God's not real just because it's more convenient to believe in a life after death, rather than void. And if you can get spirituality out of blind worship of a God who has mass murdered His way into the public consciousness, more power to you
GeoffBoulton
December 12th, 2006, 04:44 PM
Although it's more complicated, it's not much of a different concept.
Information is information, you are arguing about the complexity of the storage medium not about the information itself.
How information is stored is irrelevent whether it be in a library, in the brain of a living creature or in the 'whatever' a supposed God stores his information in.
jon_hill987
December 12th, 2006, 07:02 PM
God's not real just because it's more convenient to believe in a life after death, rather than void.
I think that is why people believe. They want to think that their lives have some meaning. It is sad that some people find their life so bad that they have to believe that they will get another better one at the end of it.
SirRuben
December 12th, 2006, 07:05 PM
God's not real just because it's more convenient to believe in a life after death, rather than void.
I think that is why people believe. They want to think that their lives have some meaning. It is sad that some people find their life so bad that they have to believe that they will get another better one at the end of it.
Poor people :roll:
jon_hill987
December 12th, 2006, 09:07 PM
Poor people :roll:
Do you disagree with me?
wovelscotch
December 18th, 2006, 01:02 AM
Easy. Google is not God, because I can tell what I want it to do. Look at every other God in the world, not just us Christian God. Every other God has one thing in common and that is, it demands respect and some form of "worship" "sacrifice." Does Google do that? Exactly the opposite in fact. We tell it what we want it to do. Ironic, because that isn't Godly...it's in fact kind of like slavery.
Also Google is not all-knowing. Yes it has a nice search engine and I use it for homework but if it was all knowing, couldn't it just direct us to a page without giving us options? I mean, it's all knowing, knowing what we want, right there...
Hmmm...
Oh, and our God? Let's just say, he has saved a lot of relatives I know and many friends from suicides and etc.
Ok point one, look up your definition of god. Saying all other gods require some form of worship/sacrifice is untrue for a start, and it is not a requirement for a god.
We also dont tell google what to do, It offers us a service we greatly require. Are you telling god what to do when you pray?
Plus, so what if some of your relatives found christ and got saved? Many people have killed other people because they thought it was "gods will".
Ok, your taking this in the wrong direction. Those people only claimed that it was Gods will to kill them, God never said it really was his will. I can imagine why you think google is a god, you belive anything you hear.
Alice Shade
December 18th, 2006, 01:15 AM
Excuse me?
It`s YOU, who believes your God exists, just because you was told to.
There is nothing, that you can attribute to your God, which we can`t explain without involving him just by asking Google, but there`s nothing we can attribute to Google, which you could fit your God anywhere.
GeoffBoulton
December 18th, 2006, 10:47 AM
Those people only claimed that it was Gods will to kill them
Those people only claimed that they were saved by God.
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