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wovelscotch
September 26th, 2006, 01:22 AM
Please, tell me no one actually belives in this crap.
For those still strugling, GOOGLE IS A FREAKIN SEARCH ENGINE!!!! GOOGLE NEVER WAS AND NEVER WILL BE A GOD.
None of those proofs tell me anything, for instance,
#1. Google is omnicent
ok, NO! it's all done by computers, and don't go thinking computers are gods too, there jsut programed to do that.

#2. Google is Omnipresent
is that even a word? IT'S CALLED THE INTERNET! the internet is basically available on every single computer nowadays.

#3. Google answers prayers
...an essay? They got that essay done because they looked up their topic on Google (which is infact, not a god but a search engine) and it gave them the link(s) to sites OTHER PEOPLE MADE and they got the information from them. No prayer involved

#4. Google is immortal
one word...virus

#5. Google is infinite
same thing, virus, or the company jsut goes out of business

#6. Google remembers all
As i said before, It's a computer, their designed to do that

#7 Google can do no evil
That's the bigest lie I have ever heard, it's called porn bozos

#8 Evidence of Google's existence is abundant
No, the evidence of the search engine is abundant, there is no evidence at all of it being a god

With that said, READ THE BIBLE

Tofu
September 26th, 2006, 03:18 AM
#7 Google can do no evil
That's the bigest lie I have ever heard, it's called porn bozos

Well, as everyone else says, google is just doing what you ask. YOU'RE the one going on searching for porn. And if you don't want porn, use the safety features.

Erasmus
September 26th, 2006, 09:01 AM
#1. Google is omnicent
ok, NO! it's all done by computers, and don't go thinking computers are gods too, there jsut programed to do that.

It doesn't matter that it's done by computers; it just matters that it's done. Can you think of anything that knows more than Google? Anything that can hold the pure volume of information that can be accessed with a simple search? No. So Google is therefore the closest thing we have ever seen to omniscient

#2. Google is Omnipresent
is that even a word? IT'S CALLED THE INTERNET! the internet is basically available on every single computer nowadays.

Again, it doesn't matter what it's called, it doesn't matter how it's done. The internet is everywhere. Google is everywhere the internet is, so it's omnipresent. Omnipresent literally means that something is everywhere at once. And yes, it is a word. Buy a dictionary.

#3. Google answers prayers
...an essay? They got that essay done because they looked up their topic on Google (which is infact, not a god but a search engine) and it gave them the link(s) to sites OTHER PEOPLE MADE and they got the information from them. No prayer involved

What is prayer? It is asking your God for something; in this case the information needed to write an essay. Google granted this information, the prayer was answered.

#4. Google is immortal
one word...virus

No, Google is on too many servers. If one were struck by a virus it would just continue to run on the others.

#5. Google is infinite
same thing, virus, or the company jsut goes out of business

Virus, see above. If the company went under the search engine would just be bought by another company. Regardless, neither of these things have anything to do with the potential infinity of Google. Google shows potential for growth equal to that of the internet, and the internet continues to grow steadily.

#6. Google remembers all
As i said before, It's a computer, their designed to do that

Again, it doesn't matter how, it just matters that it does

#7 Google can do no evil
That's the bigest lie I have ever heard, it's called porn bozos

You initiate the search. The evil, therefore, is in you.

#8 Evidence of Google's existence is abundant
No, the evidence of the search engine is abundant, there is no evidence at all of it being a god

Google is the closest thing to a God mankind has ever found under the terms of any God (i.e. omniscience, omnipresence, omnibenevolence, etc) but without faith.

Can you think of anything, or anyone that better fits the criteria above? God doesn't, we have no proof of his existence, moreover his existence defies logic.

With that said, READ THE BIBLE

I have. It was boring, and posed far more questions than it answered.

Carnifex
September 26th, 2006, 12:14 PM
Erasmus has destroyed your arguments, but il' add mine aswell.

#3. Google answers prayers
...an essay? They got that essay done because they looked up their topic on Google (which is infact, not a god but a search engine) and it gave them the link(s) to sites OTHER PEOPLE MADE and they got the information from them. No prayer involved

Prayer is just a method of interacting with your god, a small revelation if you will. The googlist form of prayer is the request for information and google always returns an answer. Bit better than the christian god really who doesnt answer any prayers. Every single legitimate prayer study has show no effect on thw world we live in. There was a huge test where many terminall ill people were split into groups, one group was prayed to live, the other group has no1 praying for them. There was almost no difference in the amount of people who died in the groups, it was televised in britain.

#7 Google can do no evil
That's the bigest lie I have ever heard, it's called porn bozos


Erm since when was porn evil? I find it perfectly acceptable. Then again i do chose my own morals, so i can understand how someone who has their morals dictated to them by a book (which lets face it is one of the most morally stunted things) wouldnt be able to understand. Plus we have already made the point that google exercises free will in what we search for, much like Yahweh/Allah/God allows people to commit evil acts.

#8 Evidence of Google's existence is abundant
No, the evidence of the search engine is abundant, there is no evidence at all of it being a god


Well evidence of its existance was the point silly. In other words, its known to exist while there is only small evidence for other gods.

With that said, READ THE BIBLE

Ive read most of it. I dont know how the word of god could be so tragically boring, its also full of holes and contradictions. I hope you dont believe for a second that genesis is true? Or the the gospels are correct?

Read Lord of the Rings. We has as much evidence for elves as you do for God.

SirRuben
September 26th, 2006, 12:48 PM
Read Lord of the Rings. We has as much evidence for elves as you do for God.
Nicely said there buddy! 8)

googleisan00b
September 26th, 2006, 09:19 PM
I cannot spell, play nice or keep attention, I forgot to take my ritalin to- ooo shiny!

Carnifex
September 26th, 2006, 09:22 PM
you guys are friggin MORONIC. google that word, mmkay? you might LEARN SOMETHING!

Hehe, googlsiasn00b, you are the worst flamer this forum has seen :lol: you make googlism look good

Tofu
September 26th, 2006, 10:35 PM
you guys are friggin MORONIC. google that word, mmkay? you might LEARN SOMETHING!

Hehe, googlsiasn00b, you are the worst flamer this forum has seen :lol: you make googlism look good
So good, it seems like I was properly potty trained! XD

google_ain't_god
September 27th, 2006, 04:45 PM
As you can see I do not think google is god. It ain't. Why is that so hard to get in your heads'? You are the kind of guys who if it said "You can fly" on google you would jump off a bridge. Doesn't sound very intelegent... I know I misspelled that. Shut up. Anywho shut up. And get a life... I think you can get two for one at Wal-Mart.... who's like an angel or something to you guys.

Fallen Hero
September 27th, 2006, 05:53 PM
As you can see I do not think google is god. It ain't. Why is that so hard to get in your heads'? You are the kind of guys who if it said "You can fly" on google you would jump off a bridge. Doesn't sound very intelegent... I know I misspelled that. Shut up. Anywho shut up. And get a life... I think you can get two for one at Wal-Mart.... who's like an angel or something to you guys.

Well, some zealots are the type that would go out and kill everyone who refused to be exactly like them because 'someone said that someone was told by god that that was the way to go'.

Carnifex
September 27th, 2006, 07:36 PM
As you can see I do not think google is god. It ain't. Why is that so hard to get in your heads'? You are the kind of guys who if it said "You can fly" on google you would jump off a bridge. Doesn't sound very intelegent... I know I misspelled that. Shut up. Anywho shut up. And get a life... I think you can get two for one at Wal-Mart.... who's like an angel or something to you guys.#

Who ever said we are obedient to google, were not and she never makes demands anyway. Get a life? Erm what are you doing here buddy, jst browsing before you hundreds of friends come round?

Jillamanda
September 27th, 2006, 10:27 PM
As you can see I do not think google is god.

No problem, you're entitled to your beliefs.

It ain't. Why is that so hard to get in your heads'? You are the kind of guys who if it said "You can fly" on google you would jump off a bridge.

If someone said to you that after you die, you're going to live 'forever' in peace and harmony in the sky, would you believe them?

Doesn't sound very intelegent... I know I misspelled that.

So why didn't you change it?

Shut up. Anywho shut up. And get a life... I think you can get two for one at Wal-Mart.... who's like an angel or something to you guys.

Why do we have to have angels?

Doesn't sound very intelegent... (sic)

google_ain't_god
September 28th, 2006, 01:30 AM
Look... for those of you who actually believe that google is god (for whatever reason that you do) I just want to say as a Christian that I hate to see you throwing your lives away into an obviously idiotic and bogus religion that is going to get you into hell. I don't want for people who (probably due to mental defects) are going to go to hell. I don't. I do not believe in killing for god. And also google is a program placed up on the internet that is ultimately controlled by humans, and basically speaking no man can live life without commiting some evil, no matter how small so in lay-man's terms google ain't god. Just read my username. So then by that beliefe I guess if I made up some sort of search engine and placed it up for everyone's use that I just made a god. Does that sound very bright from that angle? And why is Microsoft Satan? And on an ending note... when I first saw this I thought that it was one big joke... now I'm not so sure and it scares me how deluded mankind can become... oh and heaven isn't in the sky you dult. It's more like an ether-real location that man cannot even begin to comprehend what it really is like. But uh... yeah I think I got it all out of my system for the time being. I'm just gonna sit back and wait for someone who either actually believes in this load or is not an idiot. Whichever comes first.

google_ain't_god
September 28th, 2006, 01:35 AM
Just thought of something. In regards to that... minister... I never said google demanded you to jump... all I said is that google said you could fly. Small differance and to the guy below ya... I never said you had to have angels. I didn't make this crackpot religion up. Although you are intitled to your beliefs even if they get you into hell... which for you I guess would be having a jog with Microsoft... and in that light a guess your "heaven" would be getting an internship at google or something...
whatever. And to that why didn't I change it... I suffer from the cardinal sin of Sloth... i.e. I'm lazy. I know, but I repent everyday... and... I'm rambling... nevermind.

Erasmus
September 28th, 2006, 01:55 AM
Yeah, it's too bad that those who don't believe in a Christian God have to go to hell. Especially as a Christian God has only been worshipped for 2006 years. All those thousands of generations before the year 0 are damned then. What a fair system.

And anybody born into a Hindu, Islamic, Jewish or Buddhist family is damned because of an accident of birth. If that same person was born to a different family they would have gone to heaven. Good to see that God is so discriminate.

Anyway, it seems you have misconstrued the basis of Googlism. Let me attempt to explain. Googlists believe that under the terms of a God (The terms of omnipresence, omniscience, omnibenevolence, total memory, etc.) but WITHOUT faith, Google is the closest (note that word) mankind has come to finding a true God.

Googlists also hold to the belief that all former Gods are an invention of mankind to add meaning to an otherwise meaningless existence, so the fact that Google is man-made does not make it any less of a God than these.

Jillamanda
September 28th, 2006, 02:02 AM
How come god can't tell us all this himself? Why do you have to do it? Maybe if we got it straight from the horse's mouth, we'd be more inclined to believe you. I mean, who are you, and why should we believe you? Who authorised you to threaten us?

Nameless
September 28th, 2006, 03:56 AM
I hate to see you throwing your lives away into an obviously idiotic and bogus religion

Hmm. Right back at you, google_ain't_god.

google_ain't_god
September 28th, 2006, 09:55 AM
Hey I didn't say that before 0 A.D. everyone went to hell. God existed before then... but with Jesus God changed the rules to make it easier for us to get into heaven. Jewish people went to heaven before 0 A.D.. And I never threatened to send you to hell. I'm not God. I can't do that. God can... which is why he's God... all google is is a search engine. Google can't do miracles, like if you asked google to cure someone's cancer... google won't... it would be awsome if we had a cure for cancer on this earth but life ain't perfect. Trials and pain our just tests of out faith. As for me... why should I disclose who I am? And before you say if you asked God to cure someone's cancer and he doesn't that does not mean your prayer went unanswered... the answer was just one you didn't want or like. Death and heaven are great... the pain in death... not so much, but it beats hell.

Nameless
September 28th, 2006, 11:25 AM
Hey I didn't say that before 0 A.D. everyone went to hell. God existed before then... but with Jesus God changed the rules to make it easier for us to get into heaven. Jewish people went to heaven before 0 A.D..

What, so now Jewish people don't get into heaven? How does that make it easier? :roll:

And I'm fairly sure everybody went to hell before Jesus died on the cross. I could look up some bible quotes if you want, you know, if you believe that particular brand of lies.

MeTHoD-X
September 28th, 2006, 05:26 PM
Google can't do miracles, like if you asked google to cure someone's cancer... google won't...

If you ask Google for help, She can show you the way, but showing you is all She can do, for you must help yourself from that point on. She will give you the knowledge necessary to help yourself.

disciple
September 28th, 2006, 05:30 PM
l... which for you I guess would be having a jog with Microsoft...

Now I am going to have to reconsider all my opinions about Microsoft; perhaps it is a God; after all it can jog, I'm Impressed!

Gregory House
October 3rd, 2006, 06:13 PM
This message is for the benefit of all those devout religious people getting angry about the concept of Google as a God.

You know - Its extremely funny watching you religious people getting worked up about this Googlism thingy. Whats even more amusing is that after throwing together and almost (I emphasise almost) rational argument against putting faith* in something you cant trust, you then go and instruct us to read the bible. I agree Google isnt a god, but at least those who believe it are putting faith in something which actually exists, and whose existence can be proven (this puts them light years ahead of ANY other monotheism. So before slagging off google, think about the validity of your own beliefs (By the way - by getting angry you're playing right into the hands of many of the Googlism team who no doubt find it most entertaining that you can get so worked up about it). Ill leave you with the thought that while worshipping a search engine may sound stupid, its better than worshipping a god, as theres loads more evidence for the existence of Google than there is for the existence of any god (I mean, you can see google for a start - at least you know that it exists - this is more than can be said for any prophet or deity).

*Faith? Thats another word for ignorance isnt it? Ive never understood how anyone can be proud of believing in something with no proof at all (worse than that - no evidence at all, let alone proof) - like thats some kind of achievement. Its got to be the most gullable and foolish thing you can do. Faith isnt based on logic, reason or experience - only emotion and irrationality.

Fallen Hero
October 3rd, 2006, 06:35 PM
On that note, we did say 'Closest thing to a god' and not god.

reflex absinthe
October 3rd, 2006, 06:45 PM
*Faith? Thats another word for ignorance isnt it? Ive never understood how anyone can be proud of believing in something with no proof at all (worse than that - no evidence at all, let alone proof) - like thats some kind of achievement. Its got to be the most gullable and foolish thing you can do. Faith isnt based on logic, reason or experience - only emotion irrationally.

Brilliantly worded. I can't comprehend anything that isn't logical to me, and organized religion is the complete opposite of logical.

And I love your username, House is the best thing on TV these days.

And let me just say this forum has kept me amused ALL morning. I live for debate and this could be much fun. :D

Gregory House
October 3rd, 2006, 07:00 PM
Thank you reflex adsinthe!

I live for debates like this too, and I take the Gragory House view of religion - prepare for a new series of stabbing attacks on similarly senseless syndromes as religion and faith, because Ive got loads more annoyingly logical and reasonable arguments being prepared! And I agree, House is THE best character on TV today - how can anyone so miserable and so funny simultaneously?

The best thing about my attack on faith is that it simply cant be beaten - its pure logic, there are no holes in it! Its the only undeniably reasonable opinion.

Jillamanda
October 3rd, 2006, 08:07 PM
Welcome both of you. We really appreciate sensible, intelligent debate. Looks like you've landed in the right place - have fun! :D

MeTHoD-X
October 3rd, 2006, 10:12 PM
I welcome both of you as well. If you like logic, and you're a decent debater, you'll love this place.

Stick around.

Fallen Hero
October 4th, 2006, 02:05 PM
Welcome, and House is the best character on TV right now, tied with Gibs and Abbey from NCIS.

Gregory House
October 11th, 2006, 10:14 PM
Thankyou - Despite my refusal to indulge in belief in irrational and unreasonable/illogical ideas/concepts such as that of god - I am concerned that fledgling Googlism is being bullied by the "bigger boys" in the dump that is the religious block. Im here to provide some covering fire for the Church of Google - as despite being irrational, it is definately MORE rational than any of the other dusgruntled monotheisms. Look out people - Gregory House, the nuclear powered cruiser of the atheists is steaming this way!

AaronD
October 11th, 2006, 11:16 PM
despite being irrational, it is definately MORE retional than any of the other dusgruntled monotheisms.

Yes, and more rational as well.

Alice Shade
October 13th, 2006, 03:15 PM
After looking through several of the 'debates', I`ve came to an obvious conclusion, that there is not much to be said about them.

No offence to all the Googlists, who expressed their points of view (quite logically and pleasingly, I must add), but... The opponents are clearly not up to par. It feels like you`re firing cannons at the sparrows.

I do admit, that it is fun, logically and conclusively proving to the "Read Da Bible" folk, that they really have no more reason to trust the bible, then Google. However - how many of them are really able to even read through your arguments? And out of those who did read through - how many could wrap their minds around that?

If all the opponents are as intelligent as in last debates, are they really useful for anything other then a few laughs?

Jillamanda
October 13th, 2006, 03:42 PM
If all the opponents are as intelligent as in last debates, are they really useful for anything other then a few laughs?

The simple answer is 'NO'....

...and welcome Alice. :D

AaronD
October 14th, 2006, 12:33 AM
If all the opponents are as intelligent as in last debates, are they really useful for anything other then a few laughs?

The simple answer is 'NO'....

...and welcome Alice. :D

Seconded... on both accounts. Welcome, Alice, and it is fun logically arguing against the most illogical people on the net.

waffle man
October 14th, 2006, 05:10 PM
If all the opponents are as intelligent as in last debates, are they really useful for anything other then a few laughs?

I see where you're coming from, I've found some of these arguments to be equal to arguing whether or not Tupac is dead or alive. I think that most people who have enough wit to come on here and argue about religion, just don't. I would like to see a priest, or a pastor come on here though, I think that would be interesting.

GeoffBoulton
October 14th, 2006, 05:25 PM
The problem is that, no matter how logically a theist 'tries' to present their argument, in the end they have to resort to:

GOD DID IT - YOU CAN"T PROVE HE DIDN"T - SO THERE!

Yes, it's like trying to talk to 3 year-olds, but even 3 year-olds can be entertaining ;)

Nameless
October 16th, 2006, 07:55 AM
The problem is that, no matter how logically a theist 'tries' to present their argument, in the end they have to resort to:

GOD DID IT - YOU CAN"T PROVE HE DIDN"T - SO THERE!

Yes, it's like trying to talk to 3 year-olds, but even 3 year-olds can be entertaining ;)

Until they draw on the walls or find the kitchen knife. :?

Fallen Hero
October 16th, 2006, 12:59 PM
The problem is that, no matter how logically a theist 'tries' to present their argument, in the end they have to resort to:

GOD DID IT - YOU CAN"T PROVE HE DIDN"T - SO THERE!

Yes, it's like trying to talk to 3 year-olds, but even 3 year-olds can be entertaining ;)

Until they draw on the walls or find the kitchen knife. :?

Oh man, my little bro once found a sharp knife when he was really young and not getting what he wanted and waved it at my sister intill I came over and scared the crap out of him so he would stop and give me the knife. That was quite the trip down memory lane.

disciple
October 16th, 2006, 01:57 PM
My young bloke went 'Norman Bates" on his older brother when he was 8; good thing the older lad could move fast and got a door between the two of them. Not so lucky for the door though, it was D.O.A.

Cain
October 18th, 2006, 09:31 AM
After reading this thread, I think we should let Pat Robertson know about this site. I mean, what would be funnier than Southern Baptists coming here and denouncing us all over the USA? Who has a proxy? I've been banned so many times from http://christianity.com 's forums I can rarely get back.

Also, severe heathen ownage ITT.

Fallen Hero
October 18th, 2006, 11:07 AM
I can imagine that Chaos. Does anyone know what paper he reads? It is funnier when he finds out in the paper.