Political wings and objectives.

[Will.]

Alright, political parties separate each-other with objective titles such as Liberal, Conservative, Communist, blah bleh blah bleh blue. Now, these titles are advertising tools used to blind the onlookers to sway to a side based on the pop culture memory of events. Now these events may not reflect the true standpoint of the political party no matter what you think, and this capitalistic society just isn't working. As the upper class makes income and the longer they stay upper class the more out of tune with reality they become, and as that happens, the price of things like housing and transportation rises because they think things are worth what they put forth. NOW, if you oversource things like property values and vehicle prices, you make it impossible for the lower class to conserve dollars and maintain a moderate lifestyle, now that this is beginning to happen the upper class is now realizing how dependent it is on the consumer market, Back in my day you could buy a full-packaged vehicle for about, 9000 dollars, this was affordable considering cost of living, and job availability on the overage of taxes vs productability. And you could buy a nice three bedroom house for around, 40,000 dollars. NOW only 15 years later, the market value of both objectives outweighs the hike in the cost of living, the difference in this cost is a minimal 16.56% where the hike in market is roughly, 200%. Get what I'm saying? Not only that the new products that are being made are not made to last, again the 9000 dollar vehicle's I bought were designed to be repaired by the owner. God I love those Ramchargers..... Gotta love em.
Not only this the minimum wage increase is only roughly 45% So how the hell does the commonwealth make ends meet? I'll tell you how, they don't.
Which makes me believe that the corporate heads are either retarded or all are on crack.

Now the objective of this is thought, within all the political labels, which one addresses the problems of today? Not the problems of 1943, which most politicians if you talked to them are still mildy freaked out about.

[djura]

rofl, we'll still make a communist out of you
And yes, most of what you sad is right, except for the part on ramchargers:)
The issue is really not with the governments and corporations but with the people who allow such behavior. In most cases, our own greed id the engine for corporation ripoffs, as they are adjusting to the market trends - basically giving people what they want. The problem is people don't worn to drive a pickup trucks or my late BMW 3 series for 20 years, even though these cars will run for as long. An average Joe wants to have more then his neighbor and wants to show it off, by getting a new car every couple of years. So does the neighbor, so a circle of envy is created, pushing us all into buying shit we don't really need, and somewhere in this continuous circle we have all forgotten what life is really about. The real problem is that no political party, government or individual is willing to make the effort and try to explain this to the people, and we are all just too dumb to see it for our selves...

[Will.]

rofl, we'll still make a communist out of you
And yes, most of what you sad is right, except for the part on ramchargers:)
The issue is really not with the governments and corporations but with the people who allow such behavior. In most cases, our own greed id the engine for corporation ripoffs, as they are adjusting to the market trends - basically giving people what they want. The problem is people don't worn to drive a pickup trucks or my late BMW 3 series for 20 years, even though these cars will run for as long. An average Joe wants to have more then his neighbor and wants to show it off, by getting a new car every couple of years. So does the neighbor, so a circle of envy is created, pushing us all into buying shit we don't really need, and somewhere in this continuous circle we have all forgotten what life is really about. The real problem is that no political party, government or individual is willing to make the effort and try to explain this to the people, and we are all just too dumb to see it for our selves...

If thats the case, lower the prices to something affordable. And my ramcharger's (ive got 7 now) five of seven have been given clean bills of heatlh so they will probably last another thirty fourty years....

[djura]

If thats the case, lower the prices to something affordable. And my ramcharger's (ive got 7 now) five of seven have been given clean bills of heatlh so they will probably last another thirty fourty years....

why would you? as long as there are people who would buy stuff at certain price, why would anybody make something more affordable? Only people have control over how much something costs. Just don't buy shit you don't need, and the prices will drop.
Speaking of which, if you own 7 cars, and you really need one... fishy :)

[tagnostic]

all governments
no matter the sobriquet
serve only one function
to keep the people in control
in control

[djura]

hey, good to see ya tag!

[Will.]

why would you? as long as there are people who would buy stuff at certain price, why would anybody make something more affordable? Only people have control over how much something costs. Just don't buy shit you don't need, and the prices will drop.
Speaking of which, if you own 7 cars, and you really need one... fishy :)

Because there is way more money in adhering to a total market, instead of the haves.

Why sell, 100,000, 2009 jeep liberty's at 30,000 when you could sell, 35,000,000 at 15,000?

About the Ramchargers, they don't make body parts for these old beasts... So, when they cap, they cap. The glass is also a problem, those big panes in the back are a pain in the ass to replace, so whenever I find one, running or not, I buy. Also, Ive got a Demon, a Challenger, and a ded reliant k..... They just weren't ment to have V-8's...

[djura]

Because there is way more money in adhering to a total market, instead of the haves.

Why sell, 100,000, 2009 jeep liberty's at 30,000 when you could sell, 35,000,000 at 15,000?

About the Ramchargers, they don't make body parts for these old beasts... So, when they cap, they cap. The glass is also a problem, those big panes in the back are a pain in the ass to replace, so whenever I find one, running or not, I buy. Also, Ive got a Demon, a Challenger, and a ded reliant k..... They just weren't ment to have V-8's...

When you make 35000000 of something, you need to employ 100000 people, and a waste amount of resources, actually ending up with less profit then you would with fewer products. Profit, it's what it's all about. Plus, you would not make the product as interesting and selling as you would when it's made in fewer numbers.
The real question is why someone would need a 4x4 vehicle to do shopping in urban parts of the country?!? Makes no sense does it. Or buy a Porsche only to drive it to the speed limit... You don't need neither of them, do you.
It's up to the people to find out it's all up to them...
For instance, I drive a diesel Hyundai (I know what you are about to say...) and I drive it 110 mph every day, since we practically have no speed limits on the highway. A BMW passes me by every now and then, but he drives 120, not faster. You don't need 200 mph car to drive it 120mph, you need a 120 mph car. You don't need a V8 to drive @ speed limit, you can do just the same with 3 cylinders (or in case of US speed limit, Tata motors Pico will do 65 mph with 2 cylinder 450 cc, 23 hp engine, and you could get one for 2k$).
And btw, I'm just busting your balls with ramchargers, although I still think it's a crappy truck.

[Will.]

When you make 35000000 of something, you need to employ 100000 people, and a waste amount of resources, actually ending up with less profit then you would with fewer products. Profit, it's what it's all about. Plus, you would not make the product as interesting and selling as you would when it's made in fewer numbers.
The real question is why someone would need a 4x4 vehicle to do shopping in urban parts of the country?!? Makes no sense does it. Or buy a Porsche only to drive it to the speed limit... You don't need neither of them, do you.
It's up to the people to find out it's all up to them...
For instance, I drive a diesel Hyundai (I know what you are about to say...) and I drive it 110 mph every day, since we practically have no speed limits on the highway. A BMW passes me by every now and then, but he drives 120, not faster. You don't need 200 mph car to drive it 120mph, you need a 120 mph car. You don't need a V8 to drive @ speed limit, you can do just the same with 3 cylinders (or in case of US speed limit, Tata motors Pico will do 65 mph with 2 cylinder 450 cc, 23 hp engine, and you could get one for 2k$).
And btw, I'm just busting your balls with ramchargers, although I still think it's a crappy truck.

NOT WHEN YOU WELD A SET OF 57 DODGE IMPERIAL FINS ON EM!!!!!
Then they are styling...... And so? I can go 201mph in my 8 cylinder, 556hp ramcharger... And get there in half the time 383 magnums...

[The Good Reverend Roger]

HEY WILL!

I have noticed a lack of Hell's Angels coming by to kick my ass as promised.

What's up with that?

[sailor]

why someone would need a 4x4 vehicle to do shopping in urban parts of the country?!? Makes no sense does it. Or buy a Porsche only to drive it to the speed limit... You don't need neither of them, do you.
It's up to the people to find out it's all up to them...
For instance, I drive a diesel Hyundai (I know what you are about to say...)

You'd be amazed at how many bags from how many different stores actually fit in the back of a jeep.

If you drive the speed limit up the coast in anything, including a vw bus, you'll get pulled over for slowing things down.

No you didn't...how did you know I was going to say anything here that mattered?

One word...hybrid.

[djura]

You'd be amazed at how many bags from how many different stores actually fit in the back of a jeep.

If you drive the speed limit up the coast in anything, including a vw bus, you'll get pulled over for slowing things down.

No you didn't...how did you know I was going to say anything here that mattered?

One word...hybrid.

10 ton truck holds more bags then a jeep. How about a monster truck, I bet it has some storage...

[fomenter]

i drive a jeep in the city, whats wrong with it?

[djura]

My friends and me give guys like that a finger every time they pass by. As for your question, it would pretty much take half a day to explain, since there is a lot wrong with driving a jeep in a city, so I'm not going to go into the details now.

[fomenter]

good to know you call assholes friends, i am guessing it says something about you..
there is nothing wrong with driving a jeep in the city its small, easy to park, gets reasonable (20 miles per ) gas mileage (not great but better than many), it has four wheel drive to get out of floods, earthquakes, and riots/(zombies) but most importantly it has a big sturdy steel front fender

for running down dumb fucks who would flip me off for no good reason ...

[tagnostic]

out here Jeeps are normal
you can off road in town

[fomenter]

the mountains next to the town i live in require 4x4 or chains to travel on heavy snow days, but apparently i am sticking it to the proletariat and "anti earth" somehow by "owning the vehicle i want". we should all be blessed to wait 3 years on a list to get one of these i guess...
http://englishrussia.com/images/car.jpg

[tagnostic]

I only get 5 mpb
good thing theres
plenty of bars here

[Sister Faith]

the mountains next to the town i live in require 4x4 or chains to travel on heavy snow days, but apparently i am sticking it to the proletariat and "anti earth" somehow by "owning the vehicle i want". we should all be blessed to wait 3 years on a list to get one of these i guess...
http://englishrussia.com/images/car.jpg

How dare you make fun of my shit-box! At least it's enviro-friendly. It emits gas, it doesn't guzzle it. And it was four years, btw :rimshot:

New smilies!!!! Yay! :idiot:

[Will.]

You'd be amazed at how many bags from how many different stores actually fit in the back of a jeep.

If you drive the speed limit up the coast in anything, including a vw bus, you'll get pulled over for slowing things down.

No you didn't...how did you know I was going to say anything here that mattered?

One word...hybrid.

Beyond the point is, it costs 1/4 the price to build a car, than the selling price..... At least, I'm not saying buy a jeep, but I am saying
why over price and under sell, when you can accurately price, and over sell?

[fomenter]

New smilies!!!! Yay! :idiot:
:thankyouthankyou:

[Will.]

:icon_razz:

[djura]

47% pedestrian accidents are caused by oversize vehicles (jeeps and light trucks). As far as gas goes, try 40 mpg and 120g CO2 per km with pretty much any normal car running bio diesel. My 3,5 ton truck does 20mpg when fully loaded. This is why assholes such as my self will always give you a finger.

[fomenter]

must resist urge to fill tank with gas purchased using evil capitalist money, and let jeep idle in driveway at 0 mpg all day just to spite pretentious Eco assholes and there smug sense of superiority.. must resist

[tagnostic]

must resist urge to fill tank with gas purchased using evil capitalist money, and let jeep idle in driveway at 0 mpg all day just to spite pretentious Eco assholes and there smug sense of superiority.. must resist

if you have to pretend
to be pretentious
it would presage
preplanned
personality
perhaps

[djura]

must resist urge to fill tank with gas purchased using evil capitalist money, and let jeep idle in driveway at 0 mpg all day just to spite pretentious Eco assholes and there smug sense of superiority.. must resist
:facepalm:

[The Good Reverend Roger]

:facepalm:


Hey.

Fuck off.

[fomenter]

http://forums.the-dispatch.com/eve/forums/a/ga/ul/8591063138/inlineimg/Y/48_animated_jeep.gif

[The Good Reverend Roger]

http://www.angelfire.com/wv/reva/images/jeep4.gif


FAIL.

[Loki]

Did you write the scripts for 'Friends'?

[Will.]

Did you write the scripts for 'Friends'?


?...........? Hrm?

[sailor]

Beyond the point is, it costs 1/4 the price to build a car, than the selling price..... At least, I'm not saying buy a jeep, but I am saying
why over price and under sell, when you can accurately price, and over sell?

ive no idea what your texting.

but i do know you can make any (read:all) cars into the kind that are more environmentally friendly.

didnt we all talk about the veggie oil cars they are making these days, so, i think we should be able to drive whatever we want no matter where we live. even if it does put a whole in the sky. its my perogative.

:icon_razz:

[Will.]

ive no idea what your texting.

but i do know you can make any (read:all) cars into the kind that are more environmentally friendly.

didnt we all talk about the veggie oil cars they are making these days, so, i think we should be able to drive whatever we want no matter where we live. even if it does put a whole in the sky. its my perogative.

:icon_razz:

Not what I'm textin....

Let me put it this way....

To date Vehicles cost a little under 5000$ to make. (Chrysler Canada Financial administrative report)

Why not over site the costs of all the vehicles to about... 10,000$, Thats affordable. You'd sell waaaaay more, because of people like me, who not only will buy a vehicle, but will buy a vehicle and parts vehicles for enough parts till his great grand children die. ( Don't have those yet, although I think I'd make a kickass alzheimer patient. )

Also, I've got a power plant generator motor from a garage sale, and 2.9LB Rotary. So I'm thinking of making some kind of monster dragster.... And a Rotary Honda E500.

[kittehkaboodle]

Hm. I don't think about cost so much at first.

Visualize what you want to create, then research it, maybe cut a pic out and place it on the wall so it embeds into your consciousness...seeps. Then, while ur sleeping little silly magicians come to you and bring you a car.

That's how I do it.

[Will.]

:neutral:

[djura]

Not what I'm textin....

You'd sell waaaaay more, because of people like me, who not only will buy a vehicle, but will buy a vehicle and parts vehicles for enough parts till his great grand children die. ( Don't have those yet, although I think I'd make a kickass alzheimer patient. )


I don't think this planet could withstand you even having kids, let-alone grandchildren...

[Will.]

I don't think this planet could withstand you even having kids, let-alone grandchildren...

I think you may be onto something there....
I WILL. TAKE OVER THE WORLD. :icon_:Dl: