Disproof with Logic

[Rad]

Interesting site and ideas. If you really believe this, then well... that's fine, to each their own opinion. I take it as a joke site and it did make me laugh :) I myself follow no religion, I suppose I would consider myself agnostic.

Google is immortal. She cannot be considered a physical being such as ourselves. Her Algorithms are spread out across many servers; if any of which were taken down or damaged, another would undoubtedly take it's place. Google can theoretically last forever.

To be a God, one must be immortal (as assumed by your definition of a God with the above quote being a part of that definition)
To be immortal, one must never cease to exist as a functional being
There exists an intelligent life form able to perform complicated tasks (such as using a computer)
It is possible for this intelligent life form to cease to exist
Google requires an intelligent life form to exist as a functional being
Therefore, Google is not immortal

In order for Google to be immortal, there must be a life form able to perform complicated tasks forever - this life form would be, by definition, an immortal. Considering this life form would not require Google to exist, yet Google's immortality requires this life form's existance, in order for Google to be considered immortal by definition a greater being would need to exist - of course if that were the case, then "the closest mankind has ever come to directly experiencing a Deity" would in fact not be Google anymore, but instead the immortal being that controls Google.

I admit I didn't do my homework and review many other disputes (sorry, we're talking about Google being a God here... I'm not gunna spend THAT much time on it), so if someone's already said this then sorry! =P

[Rad]

sorry I read the "guide" you stickied after I made this post. I didn't mean to make the title so cliche when comparing it to the second rule (the "use logic" rule, which is of course a good rule but most people probably won't), I just meant this was a logical proof approach to disproving google's existance as a God. Also I didn't want to edit my original post before I got some replies so I posted a new reply instead =P

[Rad]

I take it as a joke site and it did make me laugh :)
We are serious.

That works for me, and I do think it's a clever take on religion =P

Anyway, still waiting for one of the googlists to disprove a premise in my proof :D

[Nanashi]

'just curious as to where you got that defination of Immortality.

With a quick search on Webster.com (Dictionary) for Immortal I found this:

1 : exempt from death <the immortal gods>
2 : exempt from oblivion : IMPERISHABLE <immortal fame>
3 : connected with or relating to immortality
4 : able or tending to divide indefinitely <immortal cell lines produced in culture>

and a search of Immortality:

: the quality or state of being immortal : a : unending existence b : lasting fame.

Seems to have nothing to do with needing to be functional in anyway. But I do commend you on using logic rather than "OMGGOOGLEISNTGODpwnt!!!"

[Nameless]

My god, somebody arguing against the Church of Google using calm, logical posts. What is the world coming to?

Nanashi, I disagree. In order for something to be considered immortal, it is must be unable to be die. That is the main basis for immortality. In order for something to be considered unable to die, it must therefore be alive. In order for a being to be considered alive, it must be reasonable funcionable as living - for this reason rocks are not alive. Thus is can be deduced that to retain immortality a being must also retain funcionality.

However, Rad's argument still has one flaw - that Google requires intelligent beings in order to be functional. Even if everyone able to use Google ceased to exist, Google would still be just as functional as when they did exist, since it can still do the exact same things - the fact that it is not doing them does not exempt it from immortality. The potential is still there.

[Jillamanda]

To be a God, one must be immortal (as assumed by your definition of a God with the above quote being a part of that definition)
To be immortal, one must never cease to exist as a functional being
There exists an intelligent life form able to perform complicated tasks (such as using a computer)

Firstly, how do you know any god is immortal? That is how they're portrayed, but they are really only immortal in the minds of their believers. There are plenty of people who don't believe in plenty of gods, so to these people, they never existed, let alone lived forever.

Secondly, how do you know Google isn't immortal? It's highly likely that within the next twenty years, Google could become self perpetuating (might be a better term than 'immortal'). We already have forms of artificial intelligence. You can't predict the future, so you can't say with any certainty that Google isn't 'immortal'.

.....but I do appreciate the articulate and intelligent debate, thank you Rad. :D

[Googler]

Interesting site and ideas. If you really believe this, then well... that's fine, to each their own opinion. I take it as a joke site and it did make me laugh :) I myself follow no religion, I suppose I would consider myself agnostic.

Google is immortal. She cannot be considered a physical being such as ourselves. Her Algorithms are spread out across many servers; if any of which were taken down or damaged, another would undoubtedly take it's place. Google can theoretically last forever.

To be a God, one must be immortal (as assumed by your definition of a God with the above quote being a part of that definition)
To be immortal, one must never cease to exist as a functional being
There exists an intelligent life form able to perform complicated tasks (such as using a computer)
It is possible for this intelligent life form to cease to exist
Google requires an intelligent life form to exist as a functional being
Therefore, Google is not immortal

In order for Google to be immortal, there must be a life form able to perform complicated tasks forever - this life form would be, by definition, an immortal. Considering this life form would not require Google to exist, yet Google's immortality requires this life form's existance, in order for Google to be considered immortal by definition a greater being would need to exist - of course if that were the case, then "the closest mankind has ever come to directly experiencing a Deity" would in fact not be Google anymore, but instead the immortal being that controls Google.

I admit I didn't do my homework and review many other disputes (sorry, we're talking about Google being a God here... I'm not gunna spend THAT much time on it), so if someone's already said this then sorry! =P

Welcome!! Finally someone that will argue with logical point!!

[Nanashi]

Also google could be considered functional having a short script asking it to search the same thing over and over.. or even a random thing.

This wouldn't depend on humans after the initial running of the program.

[Carnifex]

Interesting site and ideas. If you really believe this, then well... that's fine, to each their own opinion. I take it as a joke site and it did make me laugh :) I myself follow no religion, I suppose I would consider myself agnostic.

Google is immortal. She cannot be considered a physical being such as ourselves. Her Algorithms are spread out across many servers; if any of which were taken down or damaged, another would undoubtedly take it's place. Google can theoretically last forever.

To be a God, one must be immortal (as assumed by your definition of a God with the above quote being a part of that definition)
To be immortal, one must never cease to exist as a functional being
There exists an intelligent life form able to perform complicated tasks (such as using a computer)
It is possible for this intelligent life form to cease to exist
Google requires an intelligent life form to exist as a functional being
Therefore, Google is not immortal

In order for Google to be immortal, there must be a life form able to perform complicated tasks forever - this life form would be, by definition, an immortal. Considering this life form would not require Google to exist, yet Google's immortality requires this life form's existance, in order for Google to be considered immortal by definition a greater being would need to exist - of course if that were the case, then "the closest mankind has ever come to directly experiencing a Deity" would in fact not be Google anymore, but instead the immortal being that controls Google.

I admit I didn't do my homework and review many other disputes (sorry, we're talking about Google being a God here... I'm not gunna spend THAT much time on it), so if someone's already said this then sorry! =P

im pretty fucking drunk but lets see if i can refute this (im concentrating so hard on speling like a sober person my head is exploding)

Ok you second point "To be immortal, one must never cease to exist as a functional being" i refute this. One this seems to be something you have defined into immortaliy, to be functional. Even if this is correct, just because things may not be around to utilise its function doesnt mean that it isnt functional, im sure if someone magically appeared it could still function as normal.

(if that made sense then GO ME(

[Carnifex]

I do however commend your logical attitude towards the whole thing, it isa asd rare and admit=rable thing

[Nameless]

(if that made sense then GO ME(

It actually did make sense, and followed a similar path of logic that I used in my post. Pretty good effort for someone who's drunk. GO YOU. :)

[Carnifex]

(if that made sense then GO ME(

It actually did make sense, and followed a similar path of logic that I used in my post. Pretty good effort for someone who's drunk. GO YOU. :)

Ah yes, i didnt read the whole thing last night. I see you beat me to the point :)

[Kyndeyrn the Obsolete]

may i point out that, seeing as google is kept alive and functioning by a server hive, should all the humans die out, google would continue to exist, however, the servers are made out of metal, and metal is a finite substance, so that over time, every server will shut down or break, therefore google is finite

[Fallen Hero]

Similar can be put else where too. There is no god that is not finite by that aswell.

[SirRuben]

may i point out that, seeing as google is kept alive and functioning by a server hive, should all the humans die out, google would continue to exist, however, the servers are made out of metal, and metal is a finite substance, so that over time, every server will shut down or break, therefore google is finite

Should all humans die out, there is no one left to maintain any religion, therefore any god is finite.

[sv3nn]

well said!!

[Nameless]

may i point out that, seeing as google is kept alive and functioning by a server hive, should all the humans die out, google would continue to exist, however, the servers are made out of metal, and metal is a finite substance, so that over time, every server will shut down or break, therefore google is finite

Should all humans die out, there is no one left to maintain any religion, therefore any god is finite.

The problem with that argument being that it implies the nonexistance of god, and thus is not going to work against a thiest anyway...