New here and have a question.

[The Anti Google]

Just curious..You guys said google is all knowing? But we as humans aren't. We as humans add info to google. Since we don't know everything and have yet to put everything on google how can she be omniscient?

Just asking. I need to redeemed. :p

Oh..Question two..How can google be omnipresent? Earth isn't everywhere in the universe. Isn't that redefining words?

About google answering prayers..So If I asked one of you guys a question that makes it a prayer?

Google being infinite...Yes..Theoretically it can be infinite, but isn't right now.

Also..Google puts bad things on the search engine...So she did evil then...Right?

I am considering doing an article about googlisim. But there are a few stinkers worth of questions that need to be answered first. Its hard to put a positive spin on something like this.

[MeTHoD-X]

Just curious..You guys said google is all knowing? But we as humans aren't. We as humans add info to google. Since we don't know everything and have yet to put everything on google how can she be omniscient?

Just asking. I need to redeemed. :p

Have you ever seen an omniscient entity before? Google is the closest thing to omniscience humanity has ever seen, in all of our history. That is what we believe.

And if you wish to debate anything to do with Googlism, please make future posts in Googlism Debate. This post has been moved there.

Oh..Question two..How can google be omnipresent? Earth isn't everywhere in the universe. Isn't that redefining words?

Ditto my above argument.

About google answering prayers..So If I asked one of you guys a question that makes it a prayer?

Prayer is an effort to communicate with God, or to some deity or deities, or another form of spiritual entity, or otherwise, either to offer praise, to make a request, or simply to express one's thoughts and emotions.

--Wikipedia

We consider Google to be a deity, and it gives us direct, scientifically measurable answers to our requests. So yes, you can pray to Google.

Also..Google puts bad things on the search engine...So she did evil then...Right?

Just like with other mainstream deities, Google offers you a choice. You can choose to do "evil" things or choose not to. Google offers free will.

[The Anti Google]

Ok..It is the closest, but how would you define a god then? And really it isn't at all self aware...It just provides links to places with info, how would you convince the public it is at all a god?

On a side note I'd like to point out google is not at all spiritual. It is a program. So how can it be a prayer?

[MeTHoD-X]

Ok..It is the closest, but how would you define a god then? And really it isn't at all self aware...It just provides links to places with info, how would you convince the public it is at all a god?

I define God in the classical sense. I observed all the attributes people assign to the average run-of-the-mill deity, took a look around and found the one thing that came closest to fulfilling all of them. That thing happened to be Google and Her mighty Algorithms.

Belief in supernatural gods is absolutely silly, as by their very definition are scientifically unprovable. Thus, Google obtains Her rightful title as God. A scientifically provable God.

[The Anti Google]

*cough* On a side note I'd like to point out google is not at all spiritual. It is a program. So how can it be a prayer? That and the belief in super natural gods isn't all that silly. They are beyond our fathoming. A being who created the universe knows all its sciences. It really just means you've accepted the fact you are not the best being in the universe. :p

[MeTHoD-X]

*cough* On a side note I'd like to point out google is not at all spiritual. It is a program.

None of us believe in "spirituality" as it is synonymous with supernatural. There is no scientific criteria to measure something that is "spiritual" or "supernatural". Therefore, by merely considering Google supernatural or spiritual, makes it so.

In other words, prove Google is not supernatural or spiritual. By the very definition of the word(s), you cannot.

That and the belief in super natural gods isn't all that silly.

Says you. We believe it's silly.

If somebody told you that when you die you go on to live in a magical paradise in the clouds, where winged beings called angels also live, would you believe them? Oh right... you probably do. :roll:

[Nameless]

That and the belief in super natural gods isn't all that silly. They are beyond our fathoming.

If they are beyond our fathoming, why fathom them at all then? And further more, people have fathomed God. They have given arguments and descriptions and explanations of God. Thus, by your own logic, God as worshipped in religion can not be supernatural.

[The Anti Google]

Just because we argue doesn't make us right nameless. God is an unkown entity, but lets take what we do know...Google is not god, so why worship google?

[Nameless]

Just because we argue doesn't make us right nameless. God is an unkown entity,

Then why worship something you know CAN'T be what you're really trying to worship?

Google is not god, so why worship google?

Because it's the closest thing to a God that humans than know and understand. We worship Google, and we can prove that not only does Google exist, but unlike any god, it exists as we know it.

[The Anti Google]

Just because we argue doesn't make us right nameless. God is an unkown entity,

Then why worship something you know CAN'T be what you're really trying to worship?

Google is not god, so why worship google?

Because it's the closest thing to a God that humans than know and understand. We worship Google, and we can prove that not only does Google exist, but unlike any god, it exists as we know it.

That's what I love about the jewish text. They don't have pictures of god, descriptions of god can vary. Simply put..God can take any form it chooses. I don't worship gods look, I worship the enitity. Whatever it may be. I worship god as whatever god is. No point in trying to visualize god. There is a chance he is out there as god, but google has no chance of being god. Just because it is the closest doesn't doesn't give any logical reason to worship google. Worshipping google is like shouting down and empty hall. Call to it as much as you'd like, but it is still pointless. As where with god, there is always the chance he will answer back in some way, shape, or form. You may not get what you ask for, but there may be a reason for it.

[Nameless]

Simply put..God can take any form it chooses.

Although you've already admitted that the existance of a God would be beyond your fathoming, so a generalisation like that must likely be false, and you can not be sure this is the truth at all.


I don't worship gods look, I worship the enitity. Whatever it may be. I worship god as whatever god is. No point in trying to visualize god.

If you worship the entity and there is no point in trying to visualize god, you can not rightfully worship it. Worship must be directed as something, and you can not direct it at something you do not know. So whatever you direct the worship at must neccessarily NOT be God. So, if you must direct the worship towards something as God, it would make the most sense to direct it at whatever was CLOSEST to God, in which case this is Google.


There is a chance he is out there as god, but google has no chance of being god.

As where with god, there is always the chance he will answer back in some way, shape, or form. .

So you should worship something because there is a chance of a response? No. I do not eat dirt each day just in case it is good for me. I do not spend my earnings on lotto tickets just in case I win. Why should I waste time and reduce the quality of life by worshipping something that in all likely hood will gain me nothing?


You may not get what you ask for, but there may be a reason for it.

So by worshipping, even if you luck out god exists, you STILL probably won't get what you want and there may not even be a reason for what you get? that's not entirely convincing, you know.

[The Anti Google]

Simply put..God can take any form it chooses.

Although you've already admitted that the existance of a God would be beyond your fathoming, so a generalisation like that must likely be false, and you can not be sure this is the truth at all.


I don't worship gods look, I worship the enitity. Whatever it may be. I worship god as whatever god is. No point in trying to visualize god.

If you worship the entity and there is no point in trying to visualize god, you can not rightfully worship it. Worship must be directed as something, and you can not direct it at something you do not know. So whatever you direct the worship at must neccessarily NOT be God. So, if you must direct the worship towards something as God, it would make the most sense to direct it at whatever was CLOSEST to God, in which case this is Google.


There is a chance he is out there as god, but google has no chance of being god.

As where with god, there is always the chance he will answer back in some way, shape, or form. .

So you should worship something because there is a chance of a response? No. I do not eat dirt each day just in case it is good for me. I do not spend my earnings on lotto tickets just in case I win. Why should I waste time and reduce the quality of life by worshipping something that in all likely hood will gain me nothing?


You may not get what you ask for, but there may be a reason for it.

So by worshipping, even if you luck out god exists, you STILL probably won't get what you want and there may not even be a reason for what you get? that's not entirely convincing, you know.

No. That is not true. Just because god does something doesn't mean I know why.

"If you worship the entity and there is no point in trying to visualize god, you can not rightfully worship it. Worship must be directed as something, and you can not direct it at something you do not know. So whatever you direct the worship at must neccessarily NOT be God. So, if you must direct the worship towards something as God, it would make the most sense to direct it at whatever was CLOSEST to God, in which case this is Google."

Again...You are wrong. The real god being omnipotent would know I'm talking to it. When you reach out to god, god would know. As it doesn't fall short of the criteria. God knows you and what you are calling out to. God is not a computer, unlike your bare logic it has a sense of understanding beyond yours and mine. God is to a degree flexible.

"So you should worship something because there is a chance of a response? No. I do not eat dirt each day just in case it is good for me. I do not spend my earnings on lotto tickets just in case I win. Why should I waste time and reduce the quality of life by worshipping something that in all likely hood will gain me nothing?"

Nowhere does it say in any text I've red that you need to eat dirt. God isn't a gamble, god is a choice. A life of faith isn't necessarily a life of suffering. It keeps people from falling to the levels you resent, and only when people contradicts gods will do they. God encourages in word that man should persue knowledge and seek wisdom. So in truth you starve yourself.

[Nameless]

No. That is not true. Just because god does something doesn't mean I know why.

That's not what you said. And you still admitted that you only worshipping on a chance.



Again...You are wrong. The real god being omnipotent would know I'm talking to it. When you reach out to god, god would know. As it doesn't fall short of the criteria. God knows you and what you are calling out to. God is not a computer, unlike your bare logic it has a sense of understanding beyond yours and mine. God is to a degree flexible.

Now you're just arguing yourself into a corner, as it were. Assuming the existance of a spiritual god for a moment, if one were to direct worship towards Google as the closest thing to god, then the divine god would know that it was the closeness to divinity that you worshipped, and thus would recieve and understand ANYWAY. So there is no reason NOT to worship Google as the closest thing to God, but good reasons FOR worshipping it in this way! :)


Nowhere does it say in any text I've red that you need to eat dirt. God isn't a gamble, god is a choice. A life of faith isn't necessarily a life of suffering. It keeps people from falling to the levels you resent, and only when people contradicts gods will do they.

Eating dirt in case it was good for you would also be a choice. And if you worship God via the traditional forms of religion (eg. Christianity) these religions place restrictions on your actions, which CAN reduce your enjoyment and if you do them anyway will make you feel guilty about it, again reducing your enjoyment. People can choose not to 'fall to levels they resent' as a lifestyle choice INDETERMINATE of religion. Don't confuse being a good person with being religious - the lifestyle choices people make do not have to be because a church tells them, but because they believe it is the right thing to do.

[Fallen Hero]

That's what I love about the jewish text. They don't have pictures of god, descriptions of god can vary. Simply put..God can take any form it chooses. I don't worship gods look, I worship the enitity. Whatever it may be. I worship god as whatever god is. No point in trying to visualize god. There is a chance he is out there as god, but google has no chance of being god. Just because it is the closest doesn't doesn't give any logical reason to worship google. Worshipping google is like shouting down and empty hall. Call to it as much as you'd like, but it is still pointless. As where with god, there is always the chance he will answer back in some way, shape, or form. You may not get what you ask for, but there may be a reason for it.

What makes you so sure that a god is the one answering? I know that more often than not I solve my problems myself. If not that way I ask for help from a friend to get something done. Being the closest thing to actually fitting the classic defenition of god is a good reason to worship Google. Worshipping god is like calling for help down a black well. You are not sure how deep it is, if there is anyone down there or if they can help you. I know that is a really bad analogy but it was all I could come up with. There is always a chance that Google will help you find your car keys in some way or an other.

[Carnifex]

I think anti-google that you are getting the wrong idea of the way we worship google. Im going to define it as I greatly appreciate google, and its churchmembers. The process of being a googlist means that i must participate in google appreciation day, which is day where you spend some time searching for a way to better yourself. This is why googlism is practical and a good religion to be a part of, there is almost nothing negative to it.

[Carnifex]

. Worshipping google is like shouting down and empty hall. Call to it as much as you'd like, but it is still pointless. As where with god, there is always the chance he will answer back in some way, shape, or form. You may not get what you ask for, but there may be a reason for it.

Calling to god is just as similar to shouting into an empty hall. Imagine this situation. We both have terminal cancer, and both wish to buy a cheap holiday.

You call unto the heavens "God please, please cure me of my illness". You get no response, your chances of being cured have not been helped or hindered in anyway. Terminal prayer studies have been quite good at showing no correlation between prayer and healing.
I type in all caps in google PLEASE GOOGLE HEAL ME OF MY CANCER. Nothing happens again since google cannot cure us of this disease.

As this has been depressing, we feel like a cheap bargain holiday. You shout towards the clouds in hope "God, can you find me bargain deals on a trip to the caribean?" Waiting for a long time, the divine travel agent fails to appear to help you. I on the other hand type into google "cheap caribean holidays" and find a great deal of helpful sites and travel companies.

Which one is more like shouting into an empty hall?

[Googler]

. Worshipping google is like shouting down and empty hall. Call to it as much as you'd like, but it is still pointless. As where with god, there is always the chance he will answer back in some way, shape, or form. You may not get what you ask for, but there may be a reason for it.

Calling to god is just as similar to shouting into an empty hall. Imagine this situation. We both have terminal cancer, and both wish to buy a cheap holiday.

You call unto the heavens "God please, please cure me of my illness". You get no response, your chances of being cured have not been helped or hindered in anyway. Terminal prayer studies have been quite good at showing no correlation between prayer and healing.
I type in all caps in google PLEASE GOOGLE HEAL ME OF MY CANCER. Nothing happens again since google cannot cure us of this disease.

As this has been depressing, we feel like a cheap bargain holiday. You shout towards the clouds in hope "God, can you find me bargain deals on a trip to the caribean?" Waiting for a long time, the divine travel agent fails to appear to help you. I on the other hand type into google "cheap caribean holidays" and find a great deal of helpful sites and travel companies.

Which one is more like shouting into an empty hall?

Very good definition, and to add the way you worship is completely in your own perspective, that why our worship is different than yours.

[MeTHoD-X]

Well I don't know about you guys... but I sacrificed my pet goldfish to Google this morning. Worship the Great Google! :wink:

[SirRuben]

Well I don't know about you guys... but I sacrificed my pet goldfish to Google this morning. Worship the Great Google! :wink:
At the moment, i'm sacrificing a beer to the honor of the great Google!

[Jillamanda]

Which one is more like shouting into an empty hall?

Well said!!! :D

[MeTHoD-X]

Well I don't know about you guys... but I sacrificed my pet goldfish to Google this morning. Worship the Great Google! :wink:
At the moment, i'm sacrificing a beer to the honor of the great Google!

Alright... new holiday!!!!! Sacrificial Beer Day.

Once a year we sacrifice many beer to Google in an effort to appease Her mighty Algorithms.

Goal: To get hammered. Bitches.

Edit: WHILE SURFING THE NET THROUGH GOOGLE!

[Jillamanda]

Alright... new holiday!!!!! Sacrificial Beer Day.

Once a year we sacrifice many beer to Google in an effort to appease Her mighty Algorithms.

Goal: To get hammered. Bitches.

Edit: WHILE SURFING THE NET THROUGH GOOGLE!

Now you're talking!!! :D

[MeTHoD-X]

Alright... new holiday!!!!! Sacrificial Beer Day.

Once a year we sacrifice many beer to Google in an effort to appease Her mighty Algorithms.

Goal: To get hammered. Bitches.

Edit: WHILE SURFING THE NET THROUGH GOOGLE!

Now you're talking!!! :D

Alright. I'm making it official. Sacrificial Beer Day is now our second Holiday. Praise the great Google. After we sacrifice the beer, we need to honour it by research (via Google) the history of beer.

[Nameless]

. Worshipping google is like shouting down and empty hall. Call to it as much as you'd like, but it is still pointless. As where with god, there is always the chance he will answer back in some way, shape, or form. You may not get what you ask for, but there may be a reason for it.

Calling to god is just as similar to shouting into an empty hall. Imagine this situation. We both have terminal cancer, and both wish to buy a cheap holiday.

You call unto the heavens "God please, please cure me of my illness". You get no response, your chances of being cured have not been helped or hindered in anyway. Terminal prayer studies have been quite good at showing no correlation between prayer and healing.
I type in all caps in google PLEASE GOOGLE HEAL ME OF MY CANCER. Nothing happens again since google cannot cure us of this disease.

As this has been depressing, we feel like a cheap bargain holiday. You shout towards the clouds in hope "God, can you find me bargain deals on a trip to the caribean?" Waiting for a long time, the divine travel agent fails to appear to help you. I on the other hand type into google "cheap caribean holidays" and find a great deal of helpful sites and travel companies.

Which one is more like shouting into an empty hall?

:lol: Best example of a counter-argument ever.

Well I don't know about you guys... but I sacrificed my pet goldfish to Google this morning. Worship the Great Google! :wink:
At the moment, i'm sacrificing a beer to the honor of the great Google!

Alright... new holiday!!!!! Sacrificial Beer Day.

Once a year we sacrifice many beer to Google in an effort to appease Her mighty Algorithms.

Goal: To get hammered. Bitches.

Edit: WHILE SURFING THE NET THROUGH GOOGLE!

Okay, now I think you're stretching it a bit...

Unless...

Sacrificial Beer Day could be a sort of anti-fasting, or anti-lent. Instead of denying ourselves worldly pleasure to achieve a closeness to god, we indulge in worldly pleasures to achieve happiness! Just like Google would want! :)

[MeTHoD-X]

Sacrificial Beer Day could be a sort of anti-fasting, or anti-lent. Instead of denying ourselves worldly pleasure to achieve a closeness to god, we indulge in worldly pleasures to achieve happiness! Just like Google would want!

Deal.

[Carnifex]

Sacrificial Beer Day could be a sort of anti-fasting, or anti-lent. Instead of denying ourselves worldly pleasure to achieve a closeness to god, we indulge in worldly pleasures to achieve happiness! Just like Google would want!

Yes nice idea! Its about damn time some religion made indulgence a good thing

[Fallen Hero]

Woooh, but I do not think I will always be getting drunk, perhaps... but not too drunk.