Ft Hood

[tagnostic]

I'm going to effing puke if I read one more effing apologist
say its the American Military's fault (http://online.wsj.com/article/SB125755853525335343.html)for this Asshole going
stupid..
he effing loved America when it gave his family a haven,
gave him a free education, gave them the opportunity to
be successful business owners. Allowed him To Take the OATH TO THE UNITED STATES of AMERICA
then paid for his continued education, paid for everything, medical, dental, insurance.
but wait, its our fault? for not being sensitive to the fact that he hates everything that America stands for?
oh and Educated him to the point that he could even concieve of this crap?
How many jihadists, spent money at his
familys convenience stores? How many jihadists were there to soothe him
when his widdle feewings were hurt by his peers who wondered where his true loyalties lie?
How many people from his mosque have died from a roadside bomb?
How many 13 yr olds have been stoned for being raped in Ft Hood, by his fellow soldiers?
How many thieves have had pedal extremities removed for crime in America?
but wait, we? violate human rights? We're paranoid? Its cultural divirsity?
We have to accept everything, but no one else has to accept us? WTF
what is going on here?

don't know about the politicians
but frankly,
if yall take the nukes & biologicals off the table
(and if you don't, lets all play)
we could just pull in the fences
make do on our own (all that foreign aid, un, nato shit out the window)
do a little revamp on the self suffiency
its time to choose up,
you hate us? fine, get the hell out, we pull our people out
we pull our money out, we pull our technology out,
and if you want to come looking for trouble,
recognize it when it comes back
you want to play with no rules
fine, gloves are off
pull our people home
and you can cry all you want
when it starts rolling in
wheres Reagan? I recall the hostages coming home
ask quadaffi where his wife is and what happens when we're pissed
don't mistake kindness for weakness
obama does not represent the majority
just the vocal minority
recognize it when it comes
and let all the idiots that have been killing each other for no apparent reason
finish the freaking job, cut down on the population
but do it without us,
we have enough problems with our own religions
(they go door to door and ask to talk to us, we're not happy about it, but nobody gets killed)
and give it another shot without any effing dieties to kill and effing die for..

the only thing wrong with suicide bombers, is their not man enough to do it alone

__42__
go Pat!

[The Good Reverend Roger]

obama does not represent the majority
just the vocal minority


Yeah, that's why McCain won the election.

[Will.]

Its propoganda, and it doesn't like America anymore. :icon_lol:

[The Good Reverend Roger]

wheres Reagan? I recall the hostages coming home


I recall us paying a ransom in the form of weaponry.

[OfficerFriendly]

I think it was Tag that said our military is too PC and is why we didn't see this guy in our cross hairs. And to which i whole hardily agree.
/thread

[Will.]

Everyones to blame, everyone shoulda seen it coming, and never forget that.

[OfficerFriendly]

surely I am not to blame.

[Will.]

surely I am not to blame.

Beg to differ, if you took time to get, congress transcripts, and all those nice tid bits, you'd probably've seen it coming too... :neutral:
Things like, defense protocol, mental inference review, People should have access to copies of this information, There are alot more of you than them...

[OfficerFriendly]

overstated
one must know of something or someone that exist to even be indirectly responsible.

Your argument is like if your parents who run a nuclear facility and purposely melt the chamber to China. I should have seen it coming because by observing your overstated proposals, I should immediately hire a military adviser, lawyers, and Madame Psychic

:icon_lol:

[Will.]

overstated
one must know of something or someone that exist to even be indirectly responsible.

Your argument is like if your parents who run a nuclear facility and purposely melt the chamber to China. I should have seen it coming because by observing your overstated proposals, I should immediately hire a military adviser, lawyers, and Madame Psychic

:icon_lol:

You support your country, don't you? Therefore look at my sig.

[OfficerFriendly]

your sig suggests a radical bias

I'm not on that band wagon im afraid. anyway, what about your sig??

[Will.]

your sig suggests a radical bias

I'm not on that band wagon im afraid. anyway, what about your sig??

No it suggests a taking responsibility for your government,
and is on topic, I'm afraid.

[OfficerFriendly]

No it suggests a taking responsibility for your government,
and is on topic, I'm afraid.

I definitely have room to learn. So learn me something. Your sig could mean a lot of things I guess, resulting in needing further explaination.

exactly what are you implying? That you were not satisfied with their performance? so? They were not care bear enough? :shrug:

Explain in detail plz

[Will.]

I definitely have room to learn. So learn me something. Your sig could mean a lot of things I guess, resulting in needing further explaination.

exactly what are you implying? That you were not satisfied with their performance? so? They were not care bear enough? :shrug:

Explain in detail plz

What it explains is

Idiots (the people) who follow morons (the government) share equal or greater responsibility for the actions carried out by those morons (the government) because they sat idly by and let it happen.

[OfficerFriendly]

I get that part. But what did the Bush adminitration do that caused you to call out the people of America, including yourself, to be idiots?

[Will.]

I get that part. But what did the Bush adminitration do that caused you to call out the people of America, including yourself, to be idiots?

I'm not American, My parents were Finn's and I was born in Turkey, and have immigrated to Canada.
(Also, its not just directed at America)


The Bush Administration thing is separate, its just there because it should happen.

[OfficerFriendly]

:shrug:
I'm still trying to feel convinced that since I have never heard of Nidal Malik Hasan, I am still responsible for his actions.

When I asked, you presented you sig.

Since you sig was vague, I asked to look closer. You then showed me a sentance about how people are idiots when they follow morons.

We havent gotton anywhere I am afraid. Are you certain you know what I am asking?

[Will.]

:shrug:
I'm still trying to feel convinced that since I have never heard of Nidal Malik Hasan, I am still responsible for his actions.

When I asked, you presented you sig.

Since you sig was vague, I asked to look closer. You then showed me a sentance about how people are idiots when they follow morons.

We havent gotton anywhere I am afraid. Are you certain you know what I am asking?

No, its that your country as a whole brought this war upon itself, it inflicted conscription within its own ranks, and is surprised that someone didn't want to fight.

Thats an idiotbox contained within an idiotbox.

[OfficerFriendly]

Since we are allies with Israel, war was already planned by our enemies way before 9/11. Our methods dealing with the enemies were justified to slow down more killing of innocent civilians. it was dirty but so are they. not enough to throw these people into prison. NATO and UN however might be the real problem. maybe we should look there.

The Coalition of the Willing understands this and is probably why they are still in Iraq and Afghanistan. Hmmm so are Canadians as well. Maybe you should say the whole world is at fault now. Maybe you should leave your home now and face your own government. Lets see their pictures in your sig. Interesting really.

I still don't think how this points to me at my desk at home with small children to take care of, is responsible to this mad man in Texas.

[Will.]

Since we are allies with Israel, war was already planned by our enemies way before 9/11. Our methods dealing with the enemies were justified to slow down more killing of innocent civilians. it was dirty but so are they. not enough to throw these people into prison. NATO and UN however might be the real problem. maybe we should look there.

The Coalition of the Willing understands this and is probably why they are still in Iraq and Afghanistan. Hmmm so are Canadians as well. Maybe you should say the whole world is at fault now. Maybe you should leave your home now and face your own government. Lets see their pictures in your sig. Interesting really.

I still don't think how this points to me at my desk at home with small children to take care of, is responsible to this mad man in Texas.

If people questioned their governments motives more, they'd be more liable to say. Openly question them, they don't like it, so in this case my position is firm.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

I think it was Tag that said our military is too PC and is why we didn't see this guy in our cross hairs. And to which i whole hardily agree.
/thread


So the military should shoot all Muslims in uniform?

[OfficerFriendly]

ah, the good reverend roger.
your little troll is a bit obvious, no?

[The Good Reverend Roger]

ah, the good reverend roger.
your little troll is a bit obvious, no?


If you're afraid to answer the question, just say so.

[OfficerFriendly]

ok, I'll keep that in mind. So how are things? Doing anything cool this thanksgiven?

[The Good Reverend Roger]

ok, I'll keep that in mind. So how are things? Doing anything cool this thanksgiven?

:icon_lol:

[OfficerFriendly]

:icon_lol:
must be nice. I have to share in the cooking

[The Good Reverend Roger]

must be nice. I have to share in the cooking

Come on, OF. You said you agreed that the military is too PC, and that's what allowed the Ft Hood attack to happen.

What's your solution?

[OfficerFriendly]

you were serious? I'll have to locate Tag's quote. give me a bit

[The Good Reverend Roger]

you were serious?

Yeah. I do that, sometimes, no matter what Sister Faith may have told you.

[OfficerFriendly]

Surely you didnt think I meant that we should destroy all muslims in the military. Otherwise, that was a silly question. Are you still insisting that I push on with your request?

[The Good Reverend Roger]

Surely you didnt think I meant that we should destroy all muslims in the military. Otherwise, that was a silly question. Are you still insisting that I push on with your request?

My strawman argument aside, what is your solution?

[OfficerFriendly]

using past 20/20 vision, I would have put this guy on close watch.

[Will.]

You don't ask a field why it burns, or a plague why it kills, so don't ask why I fight, the war in itself is its own reason.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

You don't ask a field why it burns, or a plague why it kills, so don't ask why I fight, the war in itself is its own reason.

You don't fight shit, wannabe.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

using past 20/20 vision, I would have put this guy on close watch.

There are currently no obstacles for doing that exact thing. S2 can investigate anyone it wants, for any reason or no reason at all.

So I fail to see how "PC" had anything to do with this.

[OfficerFriendly]

then why else do you think the military missed this guy?

[The Good Reverend Roger]

then why else do you think the military missed this guy?

Because the military is a bureaucracy, and a bureaucracy is a stupid beast.

Warning bells had gone off for almost a year about this guy, and they got missed.

Seriously, have you ever dealt with a battalion or division level office?

[OfficerFriendly]

definitely plausible but I like tags observation better.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

definitely plausible but I like tags observation better.

Yeah, xenophobia and bigotry are easier than thinking, anyway.

[OfficerFriendly]

ah, another troll attempt.
Tag's was logical

[The Good Reverend Roger]

ah, another troll attempt.
Tag's was logical

No, it wasn't. It assumed that:

1. "Our" religions are limited to Christianity and Judaism,

2. Muslims aren't real Americans™, and are in fact not capable of being so,

3. That "our" religions do not spawn hate-filled whackos that kill people, and that

4. The military gives a fuck about PC.

An additional note, your constant insistence that anything you don't like is a "troll" seems to indicate that you are in fact a monstrous, weeping vagina.

Are you a monstrous, weeping vagina?

[OfficerFriendly]

no, I say no I am not

[The Good Reverend Roger]

no, I say no I am not

Then why do you constantly retreat behind appeal to ridicule arguments whenever an argument is made that you don't like?

[Will.]

You don't fight shit, wannabe.

I will ,fight occasionally, but I'd rather not. :icon_lol: Still kick your old ass.
Across the floor and up the wall.

[OfficerFriendly]

lol right. I like Tag's observation. Sorry if you were butthurt.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

I will ,fight occasionally, but I'd rather not. :icon_lol: Still kick your old ass.
Across the floor and up the wall.

Uh huh. I've seen a pic of your scrawny ass. I'm not exactly quaking in my boots, you ridiculous little fraction of a man.

:icon_lol:

[The Good Reverend Roger]

lol right. I like Tag's observation. Sorry if you were butthurt.

No sweat. If by "observation", you mean "bigoted screed".

And, judging by your post concerning a certain Justice of the Peace in Louisiana, I am hardly surprised which "argument" drew your applause.

[OfficerFriendly]

That is your perception. An exaggerated carebear perception obviously. Or a troll. Yer not stupid are ya? Or was it a troll?

[The Good Reverend Roger]

Or a troll.

Okay, you're fucking hopeless.

[Will.]

Uh huh. I've seen a pic of your scrawny ass. I'm not exactly quaking in my boots, you ridiculous little fraction of a man.

:icon_lol:


Scrawny? I'm 6'6...

[OfficerFriendly]

excuse me but...
If you're afraid to answer the question, just say so.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

Scrawny? I'm 6'6...

I've seen your pic, toothpick boi.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

excuse me but...


I didn't see a question. I saw a post which stated that anything less than knuckle-dragging racism is being a "carebear", and yet another accusation of being a troll.

So what's your question? Get to the point, man.

[OfficerFriendly]

http://www.thechurchofgoogle.org/forum/showpost.php?p=146642&postcount=51

[The Good Reverend Roger]

http://www.thechurchofgoogle.org/forum/showpost.php?p=146642&postcount=51


When you sober up enough to post clearly, let me know.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

The Coalition of the Willing understands this and is probably why they are still in Iraq and Afghanistan. Hmmm so are Canadians as well.

Canadian soldiers are in Iraq? Has anyone told Canada? :icon_lol:

Also, what coalition soldiers are in Iraq at this point?

[Will.]

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b32/Cadaver-Assailant-Of-Life/Photo5-5.jpg


I will club you with a 5speed manual. :icon_lol:

[The Good Reverend Roger]

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b32/Cadaver-Assailant-Of-Life/Photo5-5.jpg


I will club you with a 5speed manual. :icon_lol:

Um, yeah. Whatever, tough guy.

[Will.]

Um, yeah. Whatever, tough guy.

You couldn't even budge it... :icon_lol: I can lift a 727 over my head... :D

[OfficerFriendly]

When you sober up enough to post clearly, let me know.

Ah the good reverend troll. pardon my absence, I had night school.

I see you are still trolling. :icon_rolleyes:

But hey, I'm sure you are a bright guy and all but it appears you were just stupid today. I guess you tried too hard but admittedly even I have them days too so I wont hold it against you this time.

Better luck next troll, no0b.

[fomenter]

Ah the good reverend troll. pardon my absence, I had night school.

I see you are still trolling. :icon_rolleyes:

But hey, I'm sure you are a bright guy and all but it appears you were just stupid today. I guess you tried too hard but admittedly even I have them days too so I wont hold it against you this time.

Better luck next troll, no0b.
troll noob :icon_lol: now that's funny in ways you cant even begin to imagine :icon_lol:

[Daruko]

GOOD LINE, O.F.!
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http://a0.vox.com/6a00b8ea0674f2dece00c1141318f8c408-200pi
side note: Aphex Twin is teh awesome.

[fomenter]

Scrawny? I'm 6'6...

I've seen your pic, toothpick boi.


look roger he grew since the last time he threatened you with his height

Angry not close, little, I'm 6'4" so that disqualifies the gnome. http://www.thechurchofgoogle.org/forum/showpost.php?p=132826&postcount=20

[Daruko]

:icon_lol:

[The Good Reverend Roger]

I see you are still trolling. :icon_rolleyes:


I see this is the stock response among the right wing nut crowd.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

look roger he grew since the last time he threatened you with his height

http://www.thechurchofgoogle.org/forum/showpost.php?p=132826&postcount=20

He's a loon.

[OfficerFriendly]

I see this is the stock response among the right wing nut crowd.

You know, I heard if you keep repeating the same 'fail' over and over again, in hopes it will work, you are considered an idiot.

I hope you can save yourself, Mr Troll. Can you? Ah but you are still clinging on my nuts and afraid to let go. You are disappointing your aficionados.

:icon_lol:

[The Good Reverend Roger]

You know, I heard if you keep repeating the same 'fail' over and over again, in hopes it will work, you are considered an idiot.

Oh, the irony. :icon_lol:


I hope you can save yourself, Mr Troll. Can you? Ah but you are still clinging on my nuts and afraid to let go. You are disappointing your aficionados.


Actually, I'm mocking you for the rabid right wing nut racist you are. But keep repeating your version until you believe it.

[OfficerFriendly]

LOL
Gosh, the left side of the sac itches. Would you mind reaching there and scratch that too?

[The Good Reverend Roger]

LOL
Gosh, the left side of the sac itches. Would you mind reaching there and scratch that too?

You seem to have me confused with your sister, Cletus. :icon_lol:

[OfficerFriendly]

:D

[The Good Reverend Roger]

troll noob :icon_lol: now that's funny in ways you cant even begin to imagine :icon_lol:

The noob part got me laughing, too.

[OfficerFriendly]

well, I had you right at hello, no0b :icon_lol:

[The Good Reverend Roger]

well, I had you right at hello, no0b :icon_lol:


Course ya did.

Now, are you in this section to debate, or just run your jaw?

[OfficerFriendly]

wow Aren't you a bit bossy, newblet?

[Will.]

Considering the side of which you both are equally on, I'd say fail.

[fomenter]

let me take a shot ... the law says you cant discriminate based solely on a persons religion, this guy did plenty of stuff in addition to being a Muslim that should have raised red flags, the jury is still out on why the flags didn't get raised pc is one possible reason or possible contributing factor, bureaucratic incompatence is another.. if the gov wanted to investigate this guy there was nothing stopping them they even have ways around his religious protection if they wanted

[The Good Reverend Roger]

wow Aren't you a bit bossy, newblet?

More than you know. See you in 3 days. Next time, keep the trolling and threadjacking bullshit in IFU.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

let me take a shot ... the law says you cant discriminate based solely on a persons religion, this guy did plenty of stuff in addition to being a Muslim that should have raised red flags, the jury is still out on why the flags didn't get raised pc is one possible reason or possible contributing factor, bureaucratic incompatence is another.. if the gov wanted to investigate this guy there was nothing stopping them they even have ways around his religious protection if they wanted

S2 can investigate any servicemember for any reason, and there were PLENTY of reasons to investigate this guy.

However, the argument put forth at the end of Tag's OP was that "their religion" doesn't belong. Considering that congress makes the rules for the military per article I of the constitution, then banning Muslims from service is a violation of both amendments I and XIV.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

Considering the side of which you both are equally on, I'd say fail.


What side am I on, Will?

[fomenter]

i didn't know the acronym S2 but i know they can look at what they want when they want...

and the idea that Muslims shouldn't or cant serve is stupid... and unconstitutional

[The Good Reverend Roger]

i didn't know the acronym S2 but i know they can look at what they want when they want...

and the idea that Muslims shouldn't or cant serve is stupid... and unconstitutional


S2 is the intel/counterintel department at the battalion, brigade, and division level. Mostly, they process security clearances, but stuff like this is definitely in their area of responsibility. Trouble is, the civilian side didn't bother telling the military that they had a problem on their hands.

[Will.]

What side am I on, Will?

:icon_razz:

[Babylon Horuv]

I'm going to effing puke if I read one more effing apologist
say its the American Military's fault (http://online.wsj.com/article/SB125755853525335343.html)for this Asshole going
stupid..
he effing loved America when it gave his family a haven,
gave him a free education, gave them the opportunity to
be successful business owners. Allowed him To Take the OATH TO THE UNITED STATES of AMERICA
then paid for his continued education, paid for everything, medical, dental, insurance.
but wait, its our fault? for not being sensitive to the fact that he hates everything that America stands for?
oh and Educated him to the point that he could even concieve of this crap?
How many jihadists, spent money at his
familys convenience stores? How many jihadists were there to soothe him
when his widdle feewings were hurt by his peers who wondered where his true loyalties lie?
How many people from his mosque have died from a roadside bomb?
How many 13 yr olds have been stoned for being raped in Ft Hood, by his fellow soldiers?
How many thieves have had pedal extremities removed for crime in America?
but wait, we? violate human rights? We're paranoid? Its cultural divirsity?
We have to accept everything, but no one else has to accept us? WTF
what is going on here?

don't know about the politicians
but frankly,
if yall take the nukes & biologicals off the table
(and if you don't, lets all play)
we could just pull in the fences
make do on our own (all that foreign aid, un, nato shit out the window)
do a little revamp on the self suffiency
its time to choose up,
you hate us? fine, get the hell out, we pull our people out
we pull our money out, we pull our technology out,
and if you want to come looking for trouble,
recognize it when it comes back
you want to play with no rules
fine, gloves are off
pull our people home
and you can cry all you want
when it starts rolling in
wheres Reagan? I recall the hostages coming home
ask quadaffi where his wife is and what happens when we're pissed
don't mistake kindness for weakness
obama does not represent the majority
just the vocal minority
recognize it when it comes
and let all the idiots that have been killing each other for no apparent reason
finish the freaking job, cut down on the population
but do it without us,
we have enough problems with our own religions
(they go door to door and ask to talk to us, we're not happy about it, but nobody gets killed)
and give it another shot without any effing dieties to kill and effing die for..

the only thing wrong with suicide bombers, is their not man enough to do it alone

__42__
go Pat!


It's the American Military's fault

(wanted to see you puke)

Honestly though the guy did make a good suggestion about allowing Muslims to be conscientous objectors and the signs were pretty clear. We dropped the ball on this one pretty badly.

[Dr Goofy Mofo]

Didn't read thread, and I am not really here. But my best friend is stationed there and he slept through the thing.

[tagnostic]

It's the American Military's fault

(wanted to see you puke)

Honestly though the guy did make a good suggestion about allowing Muslims to be conscientous objectors and the signs were pretty clear. We dropped the ball on this one pretty badly.

hehehehe
its not pretty,
when I puke I do it with authority.

as to becoming a conscientous objector
in the military, thats kind of an oxy-moron,
when you take the oath, its to
"defend the Constitution against all enemies both foreign and domestic"
not just the ones you choose too.
if your not willing to make that commitment, don't join.
Policeman and Fireman don't get to pick and choose who they serve and protect, neither do Military personnel decide who they can or will fight.

addendum,
I'll try to borrow a cam to record my next contact with my inner dry heaves for you..:icon_lol:

[OfficerFriendly]

A radical Muslim imam linked to the rampage at Fort Hood is believed to be alive, after it was thought he was killed in an airstrike in Yemen earlier this week. :icon_cry:

[Tom in the Morning]

obama does not represent the majority
Are you sure, and if so, would that be a bad thing? Last I looked, "the majority" was pretty dumb.
just the vocal minority
I don't know about that either.
let all the idiots that have been killing each other for no apparent reason finish the freaking job, cut down on the population
I agree!
but do it without us,
we have enough problems with our own religions
Who are "we" and which ones are not "ours"?
(they go door to door and ask to talk to us, we're not happy about it, but nobody gets killed)
Where the hell do you live, and can I come live there? In the country I live in, people kill over religion all the time. Worse, they put a stop to thinking.
the only thing wrong with suicide bombers, is their not man enough to do it alone
Very true.

[SurferDude]

It's been over a decade of fighting and there is no end in sight. To end this fighting, it will require the mark of the beast. Like the voters in Afghanistan, why not say the mark would be a purple ink? Color 666 is a deep purple is it not?