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Will.
November 28th, 2010, 03:14 PM
does it matter how or where you begin life's journey? or does it really matter how and where you finnish it? keeping in mind that your quality of life overall depends on the views of the individual combined with the quality of decisions made as a result there of. and please keep the spiritual crap out. it is just that answering with questions other nonrelative questions. My personal belief that your own faults in life fall on your own shoulders and if you wanted to do better you would've. Also that if you were truely a decent individual you'd slap on a smile no matter what for the benefiet of those around you .

sam the moderately wize
November 28th, 2010, 07:19 PM
does it matter how or where you begin life's journey? or does it really matter how and where you finnish it?

Neither - The act of dying is not of importance, it lasts so short a time, as Dr Johnson says. What matters is not your original or final condition, but the journey itself.

keeping in mind that your quality of life overall depends on the views of the individual combined with the quality of decisions made as a result there of. and please keep the spiritual crap out. it is just that answering with questions other nonrelative questions.

Okay.

My personal belief that your own faults in life fall on your own shoulders and if you wanted to do better you would've. Also that if you were truely a decent individual you'd slap on a smile no matter what for the benefiet of those around you .

I'm not going to argue the first point, I'll save that for a metaphysical libertarianism vs. hard determinism thread. As for the smiles, that's nonsense. People deserve the truth; I'm not pretending that all is right with the world just so that other people can maintain the illusion that they should be happy.

Will.
November 28th, 2010, 08:21 PM
Neither - The act of dying is not of importance, it lasts so short a time, as Dr Johnson says. What matters is not your original or final condition, but the journey itself.



Okay.



I'm not going to argue the first point, I'll save that for a metaphysical libertarianism vs. hard determinism thread. As for the smiles, that's nonsense. People deserve the truth; I'm not pretending that all is right with the world just so that other people can maintain the illusion that they should be happy.
I really couldnt give a damn what Dr.Johnson says unless the Dr is here to post a point, I want your words not words put there by others. next point, the conditions in mention are self observations and merely that, i get that eventually everyone dies, but thats not the question the question is can you look back and honestly say you've lived a fulfilling life? that you haave given it your all? Thats why i wish to keep religious views out of this becauase it has nothing to do with simple good vs bad

Zolen
January 18th, 2011, 09:54 PM
Life is rarely black and white, with each action you take a thousand others will be suddenly gone, that time and what would have happened changed by another event.


Which brings to point that many will do that, looking back on the choices they have made and the possibility they noticed, the great "what if's"
When man is on his/her death bed is perhaps where these thoughts are at their greatest, looking at the things they have done, what they have made, who they may have hurt or saved.

I am young, my life near it's start from the thoughts of others, just into adulthood. Looking back I can see the choices I have made, I feel regret for some and happy for others.

"does it matter how or where you begin life's journey?"
It only matters in the idea that the experiences you have and the life you are raised under, yet this can be changed, even if you lived with a monster of a family, started stealing as a small child and almost murdered a man when you were almost a teen. You can change, choices are the great effect on the world around us. The choices of others can effect us, and so our choices effect them. "The journey is a trail of cause and effect", is the simple way to look at it from how I view. There is no "yes or no".


"My personal belief that your own faults in life fall on your own shoulders and if you wanted to do better you would've. Also that if you were truely a decent individual you'd slap on a smile no matter what for the benefiet of those around you "
A idealistic hope, and a nice one, yet this is not a world of only decent folk and those that think beforehand. Some tempted by procrastination when the chance to improve comes to them, some crying at the suffering unable to hold themselves as pain or fear overwhelms them. This does not make them any less decent, some will need the aid of others to find their first steps, while others need a jab in the right direction.

sam the moderately wize
January 21st, 2011, 12:32 PM
I really couldnt give a damn what Dr.Johnson says unless the Dr is here to post a point, I want your words not words put there by others. next point, the conditions in mention are self observations and merely that, i get that eventually everyone dies, but thats not the question the question is can you look back and honestly say you've lived a fulfilling life? that you haave given it your all? Thats why i wish to keep religious views out of this becauase it has nothing to do with simple good vs bad

If my beliefs accord with those of Dr Johnson and he can express them better thean I can, why shouldn't I quote from him?

How does anyone judge what makes a life fulfilling? If you wish to spend your life moving a pile of peas from one pan to another and back again, then what set of arguments could I hope to draw upon to change your opinion?

At the moment I have dedicated myself to philosophy, on the basis that this is the best way to find out what constitutes a good life (and what could be more important than that?). Perhaps in two years I'll go off and do something completely different. Who knows?

mram
April 23rd, 2011, 01:17 PM
My personal belief that your own faults in life fall on your own shoulders and if you wanted to do better you would've. Also that if you were truely a decent individual you'd slap on a smile no matter what for the benefiet of those around you .

So..If you're born with a brain that doesn't function quite as well as others it's your own fault? If you're born slightly retarded or with downs syndrome or perhaps autism then that's just tough luck and you deserve nothing because you're unable to lift yourself up? If you've had a stroke and unable to smile then it's just to bad?
Your theory has a few holes in it..

Will.
April 23rd, 2011, 03:44 PM
Saddly, yes, those cells would not have given up for no reason.