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![]() I am trying to deconvert her because I feel one less theist in the world is a good thing. As she is, she will go on to raise her children as christians and produce more theists which will go on to spread more theists. I strongly believe in the power of conditioning, and the catholics/orthodox are masters of it. I like to consider it giving the gift of free thought to her future children.
Thank you very much for that hume excerpt. It will go to good use. On the matter of going to the library to look it up; I have. The fact is that there is very little material available on Orthodox miracles (at least in english) despite the miracles themselves being HUGELY popular with their audience. The Miracle Of Holy Fire draws a huge crowd every year, and there so far has been no one willing to give a satisfactory explanation to prove it false. I think this should be a much larger thorn in the side of atheists than it is. Although I know that the miracle defies the laws of nature and therefore is not possible, this will not stand as an argument as that is exactly the point she is trying to make (that her god is above nature) Last edited by shinsukato : December 4th, 2008 at 01:15 AM. |
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![]() Just tell her:
Don't go chasing waterfalls Please stick to the rivers and the lakes that you're used to I know that you're gonna have it your way or nothing at all But I think you're moving too fast
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![]() Alright, I'm going to rephrase my request and hopefully make it more obvious. Put yourself in my shoes. Craft a statement that will at the VERY least make her question the very roots of what she is stating to believe in. We hold these arguments via email to avoid it getting heated (as it probably would) and I may well just use your statement. I am really at a loss here for putting my ideas into words.
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![]() "Google, have mercy; Wiki, have mercy; Google, have mercy."
Mercy on my desktop.
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